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    Nah...
    I have all colors and styles, and none looked too hot.

    On the ones Hmmm+ suggested no eyes, my old friend Bjorn in Alaska
    did very well. As did a guide in Hakai, and another in the QC.

    Think I'll go as planned here.

    I catch and release fish all day for 5 solid days each summer, so trying
    something different is always a charge.

    I give 5 or 6 of different flavors to 30 guests, and at least that many to 15 crew,
    so I like to have a smorgasbord in the chuck.

    Thanks for the vibe though...appreciate the idea...for now, this is a very crude R & D.

    Just plodding along.

    Cheers
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    It's your call of course........


    On the other hand.......

    All the best fishing hoochies have eyes and the better ones have red behind the eyes......the cheapcrap hoochies that have lousy painted eyes with no red and a black pinhole pupil do not fish as well as ones like Yozuri for example.

    All plugs have eyes....

    Me personally I catch more fish with spoons with eyes...I have eyes on both sides of the spoons....one eye has red behind it.

    Tomic puts eyes on their spoons.

    True spoons do work without eyes.....but I think they work better with 'em myself.

    There are eyes and there are eyes......I like the straight Glow eye, which is pretty well all I use these days.

    I was using the plastic eyes ....but.....not necessary...the stick-on ones work fine.

    Guides I know even put bugly eyes on their strip and teaser heads for better results.


    I don't think the fish down there go "Hey Larry...did you just see the spoon that went by?......sort of a Monet finish with just a touch of Dali..I'm gonna smash that one."

    The baitfish they catch all have eyes..........

    Then again, herring don't glow either....but glow spoons work.


    I take it you have access to a great facility and equipment plus finishes at your disposal due to your occupation (or old occupation)....

    You are a fortunate guy......

    Cheers...........

    (First thing I do when I paint a spoon is remember the name ROY G. BIV

    stands for red,orange , yellow, green,blue,indigo, ultra-violet.

    These are the order in which colrs disappear in the water column at depth.

    Fluorescent colors do not disappear as fast as ordinary colors.

    Then I check 'em in the dark with a black light to see if the colors "pop"

    All fluo colors "pop"...lots of ordinary colors don't.

    If they "pop" fish can see them better at depth.

    I usually fish over 100ft deep most of the time.

    Most store bought hoochies and spoons don't glow too long....one hour and they are about done.

    There are glow coatings that will glow brighter and way longer than one hour.

    Surprising how many off-the shelf ordinary colors have absolutely no "pop" to them at all...in fact some look downright ugly under blacklight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigfishMike View Post
    Sometimes I think I overdo it with the eyes.

    "Hmmmm+", who is arguably the best spoon painter on this forum, once suggested 'none' when I asked him for
    an opinion as to what color eyes to use on a particular spoon.
    He said, (and I paraphrase here...) "let the art stand alone"--

    And those came out sweeeeeet.

    But---I'll lay some eyes on these without the adhesive and have a look though.






    TK---thoughts ??



    LOL, I will not mention the purchase Hmmmm made this past weekend while we cruised for new or different fishing gear. I'm sure he will let the art tell the tale.
    Sorry bud....
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    Cool

    I even put eyes on my cut plugs.
    The eyes are for the fisherman.
    The action/roll and flash are for the fish.


    Tough day at the legion I'm guessing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stsfisher View Post
    LOL, I will not mention the purchase Hmmmm made this past weekend while we cruised for new or different fishing gear. I'm sure he will let the art tell the tale.
    Sorry bud....
    What's the mad scientist up to now? Fess up...you teased us with that, now I want answers...
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    Fever,

    I use UV almost exclusively, and it seems to help.
    Hmmmm directed me to some UNREAL glow paints that you can see from outer space.

    My "facility" is an 8' x 12' TuffShed, (insulated to N. Yukon Territory standards) with a wide workbench on 2 of the sides, 75 amp service, very good lighting (natural and overhead) a fan/vent that will blow out small pets, loose clothing, cheap toupees, and half-empty beers.

    There's good storage under the bench area.
    Stereo, small flat screen TV, oven for baking spoons, compressor, all the toys.

    I do get the odd bit of stuff from our production facility, but it's mostly metal forming-- like for a painting "easel".

    They bent a 18" x 24" galvy sheet into an acute "L" shape-- so it stands up at a good angle, and I attach welding magnets to it to accommodate spoons held in any position I need--sort of a "third hand" as it were....they made me a vent hood, any steel fab I need. But their painting operation is far more industrial than what I can use.

    Interesting that my 'barn' is fairly organized and tidy, as I generally am NOT, as a rule.
    (Wife will agree and confirm)

    When we fish Rivers Inlet in July, (this will be 6 or 7 straight years now)
    I don't remember ever going deeper than maybe 60-70'.
    Along some of the walls, we're probably 40--ish and when we cruise the edges of the kelp beds,
    we're up higher than that.

    I'm not sure we're deep enough to lose a lot of color, but when we are, we go glow.
    Seems to work.

    It would be a whole different animal if I was hunting for feeders way down deep,
    scraping the bottom earlier in the year.
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    Roger that, Mike.......

    Depending on where you go on the coast and what time of year and what species determines the depth.

    Where I live I'm often down 180ft plus, but that can fluctuate from 70ft deep to 160ft deep in the summer for Chinooks. Even shallower in late August/Sept.

    The Alberni Inlet I'm anywhere from 10ft to 60ft generally in the summer.

    Campbell River they often go deep at times.

    Nootka is generally shallower.

    West Coast of island varies in places....could be 20ft on down to 200ft in places.

    Spawning "returners" coming up saltwater inlets on their way home are mostly fairly shallow.


    Lures with some kind of UV usually work better than non-UV for me too.

    Scissor Bill:- do you really put eyes on your Cutplugs?..........

    How?

    On a cutplug you wouldn't need them.......it represents a "realbait" injured fish by itself........many don't use a flasher with a cutplug.



    Rivers Inlet and Haida Gwai they are generally way shallower.

    Just depends where on the coast one is fishing and what the fish are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigfishMike View Post
    Sometimes I think I overdo it with the eyes.

    "Hmmmm+", who is arguably the best spoon painter on this forum, once suggested 'none' when I asked him for
    an opinion as to what color eyes to use on a particular spoon.
    He said, (and I paraphrase here...) "let the art stand alone"--

    And those came out sweeeeeet.

    But---I'll lay some eyes on these without the adhesive and have a look though.

    TK---thoughts ??

    I'm probably the least experienced salt water fisher on this forum so my opinion comes more from an artistic angle. I spend far more time chasing fish in some of the larger fresh deep water lakes and my painting hobby started with those fish in mind.

    I think that eyes can improve the look of almost any spoons but in the case of these spoons I personally would "let the art stand alone". There is enough things going on with your paint scheme and eyes might just take away from the paint job. And these spoons have already proven to be effective.

    Sometimes simpler is better and Mike has mentioned before the story of one of his buddies catching his biggest fish of the trip on an unpainted spoon blank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmmmm View Post
    Sometimes simpler is better and Mike has mentioned before the story of one of his buddies catching his biggest fish of the trip on an unpainted spoon blank.
    Rotten Bastard, Andy. THIS is proof that you just never know.

    Second salmon trip, first time in the Inlet, trolling in an area most don't fish--and he hooks, plays, boats and bonks a nice 33 or 34.
    With a first-time net man....

    Getting your first Tyee should be like becoming a father and having to pass out good cigars, or getting a hole-in-one and being responsible for the bar tab.

    I think Andy owes me for this......

    He's the shorter guy, dock hand Pete with the fish, and Andy's buddy Jasper the Giant on the right who netted it.
    The fish got a second wind right at the boat, and Jas biatch-slapped the fish with the net, and almost lost it.

    But there it is. And the worst part was my biggest fish on the trip was 1/2 lb shy of Tyee.
    Andy won the pot that 10 of us were in for $20 each.


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    Hey boys...I just remembered to ask something....in the above shot---see that little blade on the ring by the hook?

    Good or bad? Yes? No? Maybe?

    Obviously it worked here, but do you like these or no?

    Why?

    I never liked the look, but I don't know shat....
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