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Re: A lot new members the last few months...

Depends.... have they already gotten their 20 posts, and if so, how fast ??? Lots of people on here just go through all the topics as soon as they sign up and have their 20 posts in 2 hours and never post again. I would look at activity levels maybe and determine who contributes and puts out info, and who just sits around and grabs info. I would say that if someone is on every night but never posts that something should be done. Just my :2cents: I'll prob get burned :wallbash:

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Re: A lot new members the last few months...

HA HA HA nice GC

I believe i heard the same thing ;)

I agree with ED, if people post to get what they need then never contribute more that sure isnt good :confused: HOWEVER they might not feel they have new information to add which might keep newbies from posting :cheers:

I have no problems with helping new anglers out where i can but i wont be giving up certain bits of info which all of us do anyhow :beerchug:
 

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Re: A lot new members the last few months...

I fall into the "no new info to add" category. I check this site 4-6 times/day just to see what's up and if anything new is posted. Since I fish on the Island there's only one or two categories I usually post in.
 

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Re: A lot new members the last few months...

a lot of new members is always a good thing as for just looking and absorbing the info is not all that bad as long as we can learn and hopefully be of help to someone or someones in the near furtue as they might have a question thats needs some input , i agree with some other members that you have to put in your time and be a part of the fourm to really enjoy all the great info here 8)
 

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Re: A lot new members the last few months...

Some interesting observations guys...

BCFR has been around a very long time...according to Rick, BCFR was the next site to go up after Fishbc...Now over the years there have been a few crashes and lots of info lost, but the core membership always remained.

We were always a smaller membership with a lot of decent fishermen and experienced guys. Now with our efforts to gain more exposure for the site, we're one of, if not the busiest site around right now...

With that comes a slight change to the dynamics of the site. Less hard core guys, more novice fishermen, etc...

The mandate of the site has always been to promote ethical and responsible fishing. When we went out to purposefully grow the site last year, it was our hope that with more exposure and members, many of the key messages regarding respect for the resource and the fish would be passed on to new anglers.

For those of you who have been around for a while, you core members, how do you feel these efforts have been going...?

Do you have any ideas as to better ways to get anglers new and old to consider how they fish and why...?

My hope is that as the core group, we always keep in mind that many of the newer members listen to what the more respected members of the board have to say. Thus to some extent, the right messages get across to the next generation of anglers out there...as long as we are continuing to push those messages.

All anglers, regardless of experience need to keep and open mind and be looking to learn on an everyday basis. This is also one of the key messages that can get lost on people at times...

There are a lot of members that have come from other sites who might feel that all these sites are basically the same...thus the site may begin to take on some of the characteristics of the other sites as the membership begins to grow.

How do you guys feel about this...? Do you have any ideas as to how we as the core group can keep BCFR unique...?

Any further thoughts on the matter...? Feel feel to discuss anything regarding the new growth of the site, the above points are just some I'd like to key in on, any other items you guys feel are pertinent would be helpful in considering how the site is doing...

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You wouldn't know it by my post count, but I have been around on this site for a long time, from back when Rick had just started it. Kids have limited my fishing time, thus the low post count. Even though I have a low count, I still spend a fair amount of time here. Anyways, over the last few years, I have noticed a huge change in the forum. Not all good, but definitely not all bad. There have been many members, such as yourself Rib, that have burst onto the scene. You guys came in, and right from the start, were huge contibuting members, with a vast amount of knowledge. The best part is that you are willing to share it with everyone. The sad part is that many have taking adventage of that knowledge. They sign up, get their 20 posts by posting a bunch of smiley faces and one word posts just to get into the report section. Then you never hear from them again. I know that there has been some effort to remove some of this in last last week or so by Prof., but it is very difficult to control. I can see how it will get worse as we increase the post count required to get to the report section.
The other thing about this site, is that it has never put up with guys substituting symbols for inappropriate words. Lately, it has been getting bad again. I don't see why it is necessary to do so, it just takes extra time to type it in. I'm not bashing the mods by any stretch, it is almost impossible to police such a thing. All i'm saying is that it was never accepted before, and shouldn't be accepted now.
My final thought is this. Is there any way to direct new members to a page that lists all the forum rules and regulations while they are in the signing up process. I believe right now, the rules are the first topic on the main page. Maybe if you can get that page moved to the sign in page so they actually read it, it may help a little.
As for ways to keep the core group unique, I think the fish outs are a great idea. It apprears to me that it is usually the same guys that go to them, and they make up a good part of the core group.I haven't been able to make one yet, but I hope to make it to one in the near future. I don't know if any of the other sites do fishouts.
The mods are doing a great job. I am not implying otherwise at all. I think the only way to get control over the growing population is to have a few more mods. Guys, or gals, who know what the site is about, and who know what Rick originally set out to do. Thanks again for all the time that Rick and the Mod team put into the site. You guys are the reason why this is the best fishing forum around.
 

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Re: A lot new members the last few months...

Some of the best rods on this site hardly ever post a report or a pic. To me great reports are what should make BCFR unique and worthy of it's name. Maybe add a trip report section for the 100 post club so you can share with the core group somthing you would not consider sharing with the masses. I would also like the 100 post club to be the 200 post club.

A great report dosen't have to give away exact locations, just needs some good general advice and some great pics.

These are my only suggestions, for a forum that I choose to participate in more than any other, also the only forum where I post reports with any consistency.

I haven't been here for long but have enjoyed my short stay.
 

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I have to agree with Pat, although I don't have 200 posts I felt a little strange being in the 100 post club, or maybe it was intimidating? I don't have a lot of experience and soon you will find others in this club who have less than I do and are little more talkative. 200 posts would make it a little more exclusive and quieter, as that seems like the goal of the club.
How do you actually identify who is in your core group?
 

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I spend most of my time in the "salt", "sports" and "open chat"......but occasionally go in search of "fish porn" in some of the other forums. I had to have a bit of a chuckle when I looked at either the "fresh" or "region 2" forum a while back and there were all sorts of locked threads. I then looked at DFO announcements and realized there was a sockeye opening. :confused:

I don't know if when a "new member" signs up they are notified that they need to get to "20" posts to see the "reports" section but why not just not mention it? If they don't know it's there.....or there is a need to post up "20" posts with nothing more than "nice fish" or a "smiley" then the "reports" will be a cool surprise once they get there? Just a thought.....I don't see too much bashing and "trollers" amongst the "salty's" as we are a more passive, loving bunch. ;) ;D

I applaud the mods in keeping an eye on this latest surge of new people who aren't looking to contribute too much.

As has been said before to some "legitimate" newbies to the forum AND to fishing......no question is dumb if you are looking to learn more and I think the bulk of the "core" group can recognize these "newbies" when they start posting and ARE willing to help them out.

I have to agree with Rib on the following statement.

My hope is that as the core group, we always keep in mind that many of the newer members listen to what the more respected members of the board have to say. Thus to some extent, the right messages get across to the next generation of anglers out there...as long as we are continuing to push those messages.

All anglers, regardless of experience need to keep and open mind and be looking to learn on an everyday basis. This is also one of the key messages that can get lost on people at times...
I remember when I was just looking to learn a bit more about other techniques and VERY innocently asked what "flossing" was. The thread did go sideways :wallbash: but I found out the "technique" and wherein lies the concerns with it. I just hope that as "core" members we can keep a mind's eye to how we come across to newbies that may be our "next generation"....be they young, middle aged OR older.

Gotta say......amongst all the forums this is the one I call "home". Great job guys......I know it isn't always easy, but your efforts to moderate and keep an eye on things doesn't go unnoticed.
 

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Re: A lot new members the last few months...

Ok here is my :2cents:
I use this site to get tips on what line to use
What gear works best under certain conditions?
How the water level is on a river that is a long drive away
What new baits are being used?
Finding new fishing buddies
What are good flies to use\tie?


So my question is what are we trying to hide from newbie’s???

I post when I have been out whether I hook into anything or not
I some times post pictures, some of fish (if I am lucky enough to catch any) some of the river conditions, some of the scenery

Sure there are honey holes on rivers but most guys know where they are or how to find them :wallbash:
And the areas I post some of my pics are no secret ;)

I have learned so much from this site :thumbup:
And don’t forget we were all newbie’s once to this site :naughty:
 

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What I don't like is over the last few months is their has been quite a few newbie's that find it necessary to post on almost every thread. This is what I call being a post whore. I only comment on threads that I have some knowledge of or ones that irk me. I believe the mods are doing a great job on this compared to those other so called fishing sites where the mods don't fish year long. I stopped giving fishing reports because the last one I did I got a ton on PM's from allot of newbs that wanted to know where I was, what I was using right down to the time of day. You would think that because I did not disclose the location that people would figure out that I don't like to name spots. It has taken me over 2 and 1/2 years to get over 300 hundreds posts and only 2 and 1/2 months for some of these news guys. I will say one thing that I never posted just a smiley face or "great report thanks for sharing" like some guys do. Too all the staff of BCFR keep up the great job of keeping me in line [ most of the time } ;D
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Re: A lot new members the last few months...

Totally agree with ya Bill, I stay out of alot of topics because alot of it turns into mindless banter. Also alot of guys just go around posting comments that are just trying to stir things up. That said I try and contribute on subjects that I am well rounded in and I like helping out when I can. I am starting to prefer PM's instead of public posts.
 

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Re: A lot new members the last few months...

Hey Bill when you were fishing that sturg honey hole was it the third or fouth wave you were fishin and was the hook aimed towards the bait or away? Nah just buggin. There have been a lot of new members pop up over the summer, a few of them have definately been regular quality contributers. If your hear to contribute,welcome aboard, if your here to just snoop and find free reports chow baby. I also found mysel on the fence most of the summerso far as I agreewith you's there have been some useless topic and some that are looking to stir the pot. Niether the rods or boat have even left the shop this summer, but this bad habit has been keeping me up with all the fun out ther this summer
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Re: A lot new members the last few months...

i dont get why the new members are getting jumped on for trying to bring up their post counts. isnt that being a contributing member? if they post junk,they get deleted anyway. dont they get dumped for being inactive after a while? i would also like to know the definition of a "core" member is.
 
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