Hey guys, I've been out to Vedder for a few times and had always been unlucky. That's why I'm hoping I'd be able to get a share of luck when the white springs are in the system. I've heard they are aggressive and the only problem is how to land them, not how to get them to bite, as these are big. Anyways, thanks for the feedback as I am itching to drive to Vedder again. :thumbup: