Laoyu and His double king in Upper Vedder
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An image from http://www.vanfishing.com/en/gallery.asp
Ignorance or greed or joke?
An image from http://www.vanfishing.com/en/gallery.asp
Ignorance or greed or joke?
Bragging Illegal Catch!
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im not sure if im right, but is it illegal to keep more than one king? if so, then couldnt he have just taken someone elses fish and held it up?
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Sure looks photoshopped,,,,they dont look real,,,and his pose indicates hes more likely holding a couple of,,,,,oh never mind. :happy:
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·Go to that website, most of the fish look like they photo shopped them, and in one pic the guy is holding up a spring andf they think its a sockeye !!!!!!!1 They dont know what fish they have.. KING is American I dont like that word .... KING ;D
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Very strange web site, and picks. Salt.
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bottom left... not even CLOSE to 20 lbs.
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Check out the club that they are forming. I think it would be wise to assist them with a little additional education about fishing legalities and ethics in the lower mainland. Here is the quote from the club page;
" We are the biggest online fishing community for Chinese!
New coming to Vancouver? Sooner you will find life is not easy here. Like job hunting or road test? fishing is same thing. Difficult to find information about fishing? Here is the right community you can join! Here, we provide not only the license information, fishing species, fishing spot, fishing reports, but also, we have hundred of members, we can share knowlege, exchange information, mentor each other. Except fishing, you can make a lot of new friends to start your life here! We can show you how to fish in Vancouver in your native language! "
I think that BCFR should assist these guys with their efforts to educate their group. Better that they teach their club members the legal requirements and good ethics in sport fishing and how to correctly identify fish rather than the what they appear to be doing now. If they have hundreds of members and are teaching the wrong way, the results will be more fragmentation and discourse bewteen the Asian anglers and the rest of the sport fishing community.
" We are the biggest online fishing community for Chinese!
New coming to Vancouver? Sooner you will find life is not easy here. Like job hunting or road test? fishing is same thing. Difficult to find information about fishing? Here is the right community you can join! Here, we provide not only the license information, fishing species, fishing spot, fishing reports, but also, we have hundred of members, we can share knowlege, exchange information, mentor each other. Except fishing, you can make a lot of new friends to start your life here! We can show you how to fish in Vancouver in your native language! "
I think that BCFR should assist these guys with their efforts to educate their group. Better that they teach their club members the legal requirements and good ethics in sport fishing and how to correctly identify fish rather than the what they appear to be doing now. If they have hundreds of members and are teaching the wrong way, the results will be more fragmentation and discourse bewteen the Asian anglers and the rest of the sport fishing community.
Hmmm, yes valid observations all of you...interesting to see the effort is there, good to see some semblance of conservation references too, I wonder how deep those conservation minded statements go though...
Also noticed they offer guided trips @ 50 bucks an hour, where you don't have to pay unless you catch a fish...I only hope the guides are registered professionals.
I like finaddicts idea about perhaps helping them out a bit, as by the photoshopped pictures and misidentified fish, etc...it seems the hero shot is so important that some people will alter their pictures...the potential for more harm than good is definitely there, if the priority is to get pics, and if misinformation is being given out...please keep in mind everyone that this site is new, many of the links don't work and you can't even sign up...perhaps the kinks will be ironed out in time...
Do we have any members of the Chinese community on this board who might broker a discussion between BCFR and the board in question...? I am sure we could help them out somewhat so long as they are receptive to such help. If you are a member here, and you or anyone you know might be willing to step forward and assist in this regard, please pm me personally and perhaps we can work on this...
We might start with how to distinguish sockeye from chinook, and offer some help with ethics and ettiquette etc...it seems their heart is in the right place, but that certainly isn't enough in my book...
Again, if any members here feel they might be able to help broker some constructive discussion, please pm me asap and we'll see if BCFR can help...
thanks,
rib
Also noticed they offer guided trips @ 50 bucks an hour, where you don't have to pay unless you catch a fish...I only hope the guides are registered professionals.
I like finaddicts idea about perhaps helping them out a bit, as by the photoshopped pictures and misidentified fish, etc...it seems the hero shot is so important that some people will alter their pictures...the potential for more harm than good is definitely there, if the priority is to get pics, and if misinformation is being given out...please keep in mind everyone that this site is new, many of the links don't work and you can't even sign up...perhaps the kinks will be ironed out in time...
Do we have any members of the Chinese community on this board who might broker a discussion between BCFR and the board in question...? I am sure we could help them out somewhat so long as they are receptive to such help. If you are a member here, and you or anyone you know might be willing to step forward and assist in this regard, please pm me personally and perhaps we can work on this...
We might start with how to distinguish sockeye from chinook, and offer some help with ethics and ettiquette etc...it seems their heart is in the right place, but that certainly isn't enough in my book...
Again, if any members here feel they might be able to help broker some constructive discussion, please pm me asap and we'll see if BCFR can help...
thanks,
rib
2 photo shopped chum into springs with no spots, a couple fish that i think were photo shopped, and 1 fish that was probably snagged or flossed near keith road bridge. Those 20 lb springs are mabey 10. And that "spring" is a frieken sockeye!(top right) And the bottom right photo of the spring is photo shopped for sure to make the totally grey chinook look crome! Those little fish are smelts and shiners the went over the limit on shiner i think. And who know if they caught them during the legal fishing season!
I also happen to know that the name of "vanfishing" has been used by other group of fishermen in B.C. since 2004. I wish their chosing name was not by contemplated stealing but ignorance.
They sholud have done a lot more research to do things properly.
I agree with finaddict's point 100% - BE POSITIVE!
They sholud have done a lot more research to do things properly.
I agree with finaddict's point 100% - BE POSITIVE!
Thank you for that young gun, I suppose the real point here is that there are some questionable facts on the site right...?
Thus, Unless such blatent errors are corrected, those that they are teaching to fish will also unknowingly make mistakes that could lead to fines, jail time, etc...and otherwise harm our resource...
Let's concentrate on what can be done, rather than what was done.
If the objective really is to help, we must all keep in mind that 99% of the time if you just start pointing out people's mistakes, they will be less likely to listen to any constructive criticism...
Of course we will have to give some examples of errors on the site, but lets try not to overwhelm the owners of the site right off the bat...a little subtlety, zero accusations and some patience will likely be the most effective way to get the message across...
Thus, Unless such blatent errors are corrected, those that they are teaching to fish will also unknowingly make mistakes that could lead to fines, jail time, etc...and otherwise harm our resource...
Let's concentrate on what can be done, rather than what was done.
If the objective really is to help, we must all keep in mind that 99% of the time if you just start pointing out people's mistakes, they will be less likely to listen to any constructive criticism...
Of course we will have to give some examples of errors on the site, but lets try not to overwhelm the owners of the site right off the bat...a little subtlety, zero accusations and some patience will likely be the most effective way to get the message across...
Sorry for being so blatant but it was the adrenaline rush when i saw the pics. Yah i think these fisherman need some guidance on the classic fishing methods so they can have a good time just like all of us, and not have to think dog(chum) and pink salmon are a delecassy. They can fish properly and efficiently and hook all the salmon species, legally!
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·There Website NEEEEEDS serious work, there advertising a Calcutta 400 i think it is as a SUPER POWER SALMON REEL
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