[bigjay]

I can't decide the type of line I should get for my rigger, so I'm going to do it the democratic way.

Only one question about the scotty braided, do the power klips work on it - can a use them with out making a loop in the line when stacking lines, like with cable?
Have fun, Jason

 

[Sitkaspruce]

I switched my cable over to Tuff XP in neon yellow, 130 lbs. It is much better than cable and because I use the scotty rubber snubbers between the ball and line, I can use the lighter test. The snubber is rated for 75 lbs breaking strength. The new line cuts the water better, is much more noticable and if you ever get it in your prop, you can cut it out very easily.

I bought the 330 yard spool and did all three of my downriggers, all for $70. I think you pay $50 for one spool of scotty that does one??? downrigger.

Cheers

SS

 

[abbyfireguy]

200 lb power pro in 450 foot spools.. Bought direct from Power pro for around $42 each...Loaded one spool on each Scotty electric,good for the deep ones.Better than the Scotty line as it is thinner with less drag in the water..
Scotty makes stops for the thinner braided line...
No electricity on the braided line,,,paint your cannon balls with black tool dip as well...

 

[Fishaholic]

Still never going to touch the braided stuff O0

 

[abbyfireguy]

To each his own I quess...I'll go with what performs the best for me and tons of other downrigger fishermen and also out lasts stainless cable by a mile... :beerchug:

 

[TheBigGuy]

200 lb power pro in 450 foot spools.. Bought direct from Power pro for around $42 each...Loaded one spool on each Scotty electric,good for the deep ones.Better than the Scotty line as it is thinner with less drag in the water..
Scotty makes stops for the thinner braided line...
No electricity on the braided line,,,paint your cannon balls with black tool dip as well...

Hi, Abbyfireguy.

I've ordered the same 200 lb powerpro, but it hasn't arrived yet. What I was wanting to know is how does the angle of the line in the water compare to stainless wire when trolling. I often gauge my speed by the angle of the line as I troll. I usually try to maintain it about 40-45 degree angle with 12 pound balls. What should I expect with the powerpro, will the line blow back less than stainless.

 

[Sitkaspruce]

TheBigGuy

It does not make that much of a difference and depth over 100', I still try to keep my angle at around 40%. Above 100', you will have to judge for yourself, but mine run around 30% now when I fish above 100'. Try different speed and see what works. The one thing I do Miss is the hum of the wire, it was kind of a background noise that I got use to. The other thing is the "Jolt or Bounce" that the old wire would make when a big fish hit it. The braided just does not seem to make that noise. Also make sure you pick up the Scotty Red stoppers for the line, as the old yellow will not work as well.

SS

 

[TheBigGuy]

Thanks, Sitkaspruce.

I already have the red stoppers, now all I have to do wait for the line to arrive. I've heard nothing but good stuff about the powerpro that's why I ordered it.

 

[Fishaholic]

To each his own I quess...I'll go with what performs the best for me and tons of other downrigger fishermen and also out lasts stainless cable by a mile... :beerchug:

What performs and or fishes better are 2 totally different things :beerchug:

 

[abbyfireguy]

Fish in the boat = Performance and fishing better....
Frayed cable = cut hands even when the Capt warns fishing buddies"keep your hands off the cable and grab only the rubber snubber(some people just don't listen )"
Replacing kinked and rotten cable out on the fishing grounds is do-able but a royal pain with 52 yr old eyes and glasses left at home(Oldtimers is kicking in).
Power Pro downrigger line is getting used by tons of people now who fish way more than I'll ever be able to(until I retire and have endless time and money ) and they are saying that braided will be their choice now...
I also have friends that won't try it and catch their share of fish as well..
Do I really get worked up about it?Nope.. :-*
But I do carry all my spare stainless gear with me in the event of repairs that need to be done in the field...
Hopefully its to others gear and not my own riggers,but,its better to have all the spare stuff to fix the little screwups out on the fishing grounds thanhaving to head home.. :thumbup:

 

[Fishaholic]

Do I really get worked up about it?Nope.. :-*

Me neither :-* :thumbup:
Would definatley have a convo over some wobblies with ya though. I can honestly tell you that sure that braided does work better with tides and over all fishing but when it comes to "scratching" time...... Ill have the blood in the bucket.
Didn't see a net raised today off pedder......I hit 3

 

[Fishaholic]

Serengeti...............
This is a response for your post on the other forum....as it seems to be popping up everywhere......
Boat voltage: Remember the experiment in high school, the lemon, copper and zinc?. (not gunna try to sound like I know exactly what I'm talking 'bout but hope ya get the point ) The lemon juice is acidic. It strips atoms from one of the metals and they move to the other, creating a charge. Salt water is acidic and the same thing happens when your are fishin in the water. You have lead (cannon balls), your clips(that could be copper stainless or plastic), aluminum (drive) and a few stainless nuts and bolts and stuff and of course the stainless line that connects the boat to the leads.
and.......Would rather have zincs stripped than my leg.
Soooo: If you put braided line on you eliminate that electrolysis that you would normally create which the fish feel through the lat line.
Wiring can have a lot to do with voltage but more often than not it would be a case of bad wiring messing up your fishin (i.e. your boat is grounding through the downrigger lines........bad)fishin negative. You can play with the voltage by changing lead clips or adding gangon line. I find that metal clips usually drop it.
I fish a little slower than most especially in August when the big slugs are around but I also fish lower.... generally .55-.6
but at the same time I got guides ripping by me fishing .7 and putting the same stuff in the box. If I ran .7 I would do squat cause it don't work for me. Everbody has their own perspective on what gets the biggie in the box and Ill tell you once I figured out the right voltage for the way I fish it was almost magic......don't matter what I put down if your fishin right they'll hit it.
Had a bud with a black box and was trying to duplicate me (took him to school)........as he passes. Told him to run it at .65 and he was on. This was a typical Sooke day when 30 boats are trying to get into your fish box and a few of the select few nailin.
I will not go to fishin zero voltage because it runs better, I'm not gunna hope that there is a few around and they will hopefully "see" my gear. I like to have them checkin me out sayin :happy: WHAT IS THAT! :thumbup:

 

[Fishaholic]

I will also add that if your zincs are burnt out you tend to run hotter....havent figured that one out yet

 

[kanuckle head]

Like to try this concept had a look @ the 200 lb braided line it was like 25lb mono in thickness
would love the fact of less resistance & no voltage in the water & that possible time when it warps around the prop makes for easier removal.
My ?? is for those who use braided is there a indecent when the line digs in the wrapped spool & binds
In my experience in tropical deep sea fishing using 50 wide spools & braided and @ times when retrieving line @ slack (no fish) the line spools loose & when WALTER hits the line digs in & binds which stops the spool & bye bye WALTER :wallbash:

 

[tsweet129]

i'm a little late on this post but here is my experience..i'm running stainless on one side and braided on the other....i was doing a bit of a comparison on whether my blackbox side was out producing my non blackbox side...i'd say pretty much equal...i can say that i did have a prop strike on the braided side and thank goodness if was braided and not stainless...no hum on the braided...no crimping on the braided....nice to hear about the red stoppers...i will get some of those as the yellows don't work worth crap as the line is too thin...the other notable is that when i use a stacking clip on the line i often find when pulling the line off the clip the stacking clip tends to slide up the braided line a bit....all in all i tend to like the braided and am just waiting for some more to show up on ebay so i can get it for a good price.....

 

[bigjay]

I decided to go with the Scotty Braided - mainly cause of the discount. Tsweet, I'll see if a box can fall of the truck or something . have fun, Jason