i believe hotrod meant chum jacks. there was another topic in the forum about this (read it, it is very interesting info). apparently when catching a smaller chum it is usually a jack. i was up and down about how the numbers were this year, but by the end of the season i was convinced for sure that the number were poor. spots had alot of fish in them but that is what the whole system usually looks like. when they are in in normal numbers you dont have to go in search of them. i believe nature will find a way as well. it may take a cycle though.