Shimano has Daiwa beat for torque with it's HEG gearing and the daiwa is an all around smooth reel. I currently having major problems with my Millionaire CVZ (modle luna replaces). The reel literally falls apart while I'm fishing. I am constantly retightening the side plate screws only to have them come undone again. My reel is in for a servicing right now and there gonna put some lock tight on it but I donnot think I should have to put lock tight on Daiwa's top of the line round reel just to keep it together (which I had for just over a year before accruing this problem). Well hopefully the lock tight will hold and not require constant re application. With that said I've also had problems with a Calcutta 400 which was replaced under warranty. But I think my problems with the Calcutta were due to sand not build quality.