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No more complaning about the price of gas a the local gas socks, Esso has decided they're not profitable enough. Even better is that when they close them they are going to be destoried for 'liablity reason'. That means the own can't go independant. And it means my crew will have to get use to humping gas to the boat. For more details look at today's Business section of the Sun.
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Re: Esso Shutting Down Gas Bardges.

I haven't been to Vancouver Harbour by water for sometime but where can I buy fuel if I cross the straight from Nanaimo & want to pull in to Granville Island/False Creek?

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Re: Esso Shutting Down Gas Bardges.

Greg....

I haven't read the article but I would imagine that the Esso gas dock in False Creek and in Fisherman's Cove (West Van) will both be gone and you will be left with the Chevron gas dock in Coal Harbour. ::)

I am pretty sure that the West Van dock is Esso. :confused:
 

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Re: Esso Shutting Down Gas Barges.

What's a bardge? :confused:

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/...=9f34f02c-39d0-4758-8e6e-59933a99ccc3&k=65816

Esso pulls plug on floating fuel stations

Joanne Lee-Young, Vancouver Sun
Published: Tuesday, November 13, 2007


There is a David-versus-Goliath battle underway at two Lower Mainland marina hubs, with boaters, island-commuters and gas station operators taking on Imperial Oil to protect the only remaining, convenient fuel access they have.

The oil giant owns the floating Esso gas stations in West Vancouver's Fisherman's Cove and Vancouver's False Creek, as well as a few others around B.C. Since last year, however, it has been trying to get out of the dwindling business completely.

"From time to time, we conduct reviews of our business and look at our marine services network. It no longer fit in our core business, so we decided to exit that segment," said Calgary-based Gordon Wong, a spokesperson for Imperial Oil. "[In B.C.], seven sites are being impacted."

The problem at Fisherman's Cove and at False Creek is that Esso is the only player. Without the company's presence, there is no other option, leaving boaters in those areas to precariously lug jerry cans of gasoline from land to sea in order to fill up their tanks.

"Depending on your boat, you might be able to race daylight to get to another station, but people are already [getting ready by] packing fuel by hand. And they are spilling it. I see dozens of people doing this. It's a huge safety hazard," said Andy Mosier, head of yacht sales at Thunderbird Marina near Fisherman's Cove.

Bruce Falkins, who has run the Esso float fuel station at Fisherman's Cove for 25 years, said that Imperial originally offered to sell him the station and let him continue operating it. Later, he was informed that "because of [Imperial's] concerns with their future liability with the structure, they were cancelling the sale."

"Instead, they are going to completely destroy it," in early January, and take along a "perfectly good floating marine structure," said Falkins.

Some 2,000 boaters and commuters use the Fisherman's Cove gas station, according to Falkins. About the same number use the False Creek location. There is a small groundswell brewing as consumers at both locations voice their complaints directly to Imperial, sign petitions and call on politicians to intervene. A few have even offered to drum up investment dollars to help out operators, said Falkins.

"This is the situation in the winter. A lot of people don't even know this is going on, and won't realize until it gets busy in the summer. Then, they will go and try to get gas and there will be nowhere to get it," said Mosier. "It's a big hazard."

Falkins said that because of some complaints, "a vice president [at Imperial] has said, 'I need to be sure we are doing the right thing here in having these barges destroyed rather than having them sold to the operators.' So, they said that management would come back to us [later this week] with an answer as to whether they would sell or destroy them. The answer right now is that they are going to destroy them."

Wong declined to discuss the company's dealings with individual retail operators, but some of them, who didn't want to be named because they are still in negotiations with Imperial, said that talks are underway to turn select locations into "unbranded ones."

This would allow a physical gas station to continue running, but it would operate without a trace of Esso signage or other identification. In other cases, outright closures of Esso stations have been tough luck for the operator, but consumers could, at least, still turn to a nearby competitor for gas.

Falkins emphasized that in addition to providing fuel for boaters and commuters, these remaining fuel floats are used by various coast guard and emergency service providers. "We have often gone out to help sailors," he said in an interview. As well, in an area of mostly "expensive and private waterfront property, we offer a meeting point that is publicly accessible."

Wong, the spokesman, revealed little about the company's efforts to take a second look at the situation, saying only that "there is nothing to preclude anyone or any organization from starting a business in this area if they see an opportunity here. Our normal process when we close a site is to do an assessment of equipment that is there, to do an environmental assessment, to remove the equipment and develop a plan for a cleanup. That is us taking that is us taking responsibility for a location where we have operated for a number of years."
 

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This really sucks. I've fired off an angry letter to Imperial Oil already, but I sure hope the marine industry mounts some kind of a campain to save them or at least allow someone to take them over. Boat brokers and nearby marinas / yacht clubs, especially should worry, "I'll sell you a 40' boat, but you'll have to spend a hundred bucks in fuel each trip (likely in the wrong direction) just to fuel her up!" If anyone sees or hears of an organized response to this, please let me know..
 

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The more I think about it the stupider the decision sounds. :pissed:

Demographics dictate that the marine industry is set for huge growth in the next decade, and locally new marinas are being built in False Creek.

In addition there's some typical corporate CYA* thinking in disposing of the barges.




*-cover your ass
 

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i think all esso's have petitions to sign, or at lest the one at west van(fishermans cove) does. my understanding with talking to some people around was that the tanks that hold the fuel were outdated and would need to be replaced, thus costing too much $. it really is bad because like someone already stated, you need to spend money to go spend money because of the longer run to the fuel barge. Also the inconvenience of passably having to go in the wrong direction of you trip to fuel up. I know that some of you keep your boat in either Thunderbird marina, or west van yacht club and i for one hope that the "local" gas pumps stay open. next time you are in please ask to sign the petition to keep it!

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I filled up at Fisherman's yesterday and they had at least 5 pages of petitions already. They had a couple of Imperial Oil contacts posted as well:

Doug Vernon (604) 817-0529
[email protected]

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Tim Maryon (604) 293-2902
[email protected]

I would encourage all those of us who use these facilities to write and call to express our concerns. Imperial Oil has done well from these stations for the past 50 years (in the case of Fishermans Cove, at least) Now they're just going to up and leave because of perceived environmental liability? As an aside, and this may just be the conspiracy theorist in me, the timing of the announcement just after half of Thunderbird Marina's boats are up on the hard for dock rebuilding / replacement and therefore even fewer boats are in the water to potential use the fuel dock is certainly convenient for Esso... :pissed: :pissed: :pissed:
 
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From Wikipedia,

Imperial Oil Limited (TSX: IMO AMEX: IMO) is Canada's largest petroleum company. It is controlled by ExxonMobil, which owns 69.6% of its stock. In turn it owns 25% of Syncrude Canada Ltd., the world's largest producer of synthetic crude oil from strip mining of tar sands. Imperial Oil operates service stations in Canada under the trade name Esso as well as other brand names. Its owned-and-operated convenience stores use the On the Run / or Tiger Express brands.

The company was incorporated in 1880. Currently headquartered in Calgary, Alberta, Imperial Oil was based in Toronto, Ontario until 2005.

Imperial is one of Canada's top natural gas producers, the country's major refiner and marketer of petroleum products and an important manufacturer of petrochemicals. Most of Imperial's production is from its vast natural resource holdings in Alberta and the Northwest Territories.

Exxon also owns Esso, Chevron, and in the USA Texaco, Mobile, and BP
 

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piperfeltcher said:
I guess Esso does not like customers??? If they close down the fuel docks and will not let the operators buy them I will not be fueling up my car at a Esso either
Sounds good to me...its not like there not making enough money already with todays prices...I'll shop for fuel somewhere else
 
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