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Ribwart asked if I could put something together about spoon fishing to help out those interested in giving it a go so here goes.
I have been experimenting with spoons for about 3 years now and this year all I am carrying with me is spoons ( makes for easy packing) for pinks, coho, springs, chum and steelhead. The setups I have been using are #1 - 10'6" casting rod with an Abu Record 60 with 14 lb. main line and 10lb. leader
#2 – 10’6” casting rod with a Shimano Curado 300 DSV with 12 lb. main line and 10lb. leader.
#3 – 9’ spinning rod with a Shimano Symetre 4000 with 30lb. Power Pro and 10lb. leader this setup is mainly for Fraser pinks. You don’t need these exact setups, they are just what I happen to use.
The spoons I have been using are 50/50 silver/gold, silver, copper and brass.
Setting up I use a small swivel tied to the main line and then a 10lb. leader about 18-24” and then tie on the spoon of choice. Do not use any form of weight with spoons as it affects the action of the spoon. The spoons I use are 2/5 oz., 3/8 oz. and ½ oz.
The method which I have found to have the most hook ups is to cast up stream and let the spoon sink a bit and SLOWLY retrieve so the spoon flutters side to side not spinning. Normally by the time the spoon is in front of me I pull it out and recast, I don’t normally let the spoon go below me in the water. This is all I do and have found it VERY productive so get out there and give it a try and don’t be afraid to experiment. Hope this will help some of you.
BTW, into 5 coho this morning at first light with a 50/50 ;D
 

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Fisherforever.
I was kinda shocked that you posted on another thread that you were using BC Steel spoons. ???
About a dozen years ago Pen Tac went outa business. Hearing this, I quickly bought up 40 of them and exclusively fished them for a few years and had great success in much the manner you've described. I did some searching today and yes they are back and available once again. :thumbup: The only difference I can see is they don't have Pen Tac "Seattle" stamped in them. Thats good because I've only got 15 left!!

http://pen-tac.com/
 

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Interesting you should ask young gun... ;)

First off though, I should thank Fisherforever for posting that, Thanks FF!

Second, I have a copy of an article written by a former member of this site. It directly describes in detail an answer to young guns question.

Just as there are variations in techniques with float fishing, or any other method, there are variations for spoonfishing as well. The article describes yet another style of fishing spoons that might add to what Fisherforever wrote and give anglers in BC more choices in how they fish.

As Fisherforever, and many others can attest to, spoons work!!! :thumbup:

Below is the article, reproduced with the authors express permission. It is a good little piece that is well worth the read...

This is what he wrote, word for word:

Spoons are most easily, and usually most effectivly, fished with a down and across presentation, much like the wet fly swing. What you dont want to do is cast out and start retreiving right away. Your spoon will be just under the surface instead of down near the bottom.

Stand just up river from the holding water at the head of the run and identify what your dealing with. Lets say its a medium depth choppy run about 4' deep with roughly walking speed water.

Select a spoon. Krocs and other slim designs are good for faster and/or deeper waters. Koho and other mid range designs are good all around designs for many different water conditions and KO's and the like are good for shallow and/or slow waters.

So we select an average spoon, say a 35 Koho in copper.

Put your first cast in close, say 15' or so. Cast directly across from you. Let the spoon sink. If you tap bottom take a couple quick cranks, then stop. As the spoon swings, follow it with your rod. You should be able to find bottom by quickly lowering your rod. If not you must feed line into the drift by simultaneously lifting your rod straight up and releasing line at the same time with out disrupting the natural drift of your spoon. What you want to happen is for your rod to go from the 9 o'clock position that it began in to the 12 o'clock position with out jerking your spoon through the water. You now have about 15' of extra line to to add to your drift simply by lowering your rod tip as you follow the spoon through the water. Sounds harder than it is. If I'm using a spinning reel I prefer to back reel line out rather than open the bail. If your using a level wind its a piece of cake.

Repeat the rod lift and line feed as necessary through the drift. You only need to bump the bottom once or twice, tops, per drift. Ideally you would like your spoon to be about a foot off of the bottom for the whole cast.

Cast a little farther every time, maybe a foot or so until you reach the oposite side of the holding water or you begin to lose line control. An out of control spoon is an ineffective spoon.

Once you have made your farthest cast, take a small step down river and repeat your farthest cast. Continue to cast the same distance across the water and taking small steps down river until you have covered the run.

As the run shallows into the tail out you will need to angle your casts slightly down river and will probably not need to lift and feed line as much, or at all, to effectivly cover the water.

To make it easier, instead of manipulating the spoon through the rod you can simply change spoons to acheive more depth. If a 2/5 koho isnt getting to bottom then a 1/2 kroc or a 3/4 koho will get down with out having to do the lift/feed but at the expense of lessened spoon action.

Do not reel in unless your hitting bottom.

The variables are almost infinite but the basic down and across will get you started and on your way.

Many thanks to the author, Oliver, aka too many internet names to list...
and of course again to fisherforever sharing his techniques.

My comment...Despite what the author, Oliver, describes...I don't think his method is easier than the method fisherforever described, in fact I think it is much more difficult. But it is another way of fishing spoons that can work wonders out on the river...

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Great thread and post guys. Rib, I am fairly new to Spoon fishing but have done a lot more of it lately. Never really had any confidence in them, but used then in faster flowing rivers practicing on Pinks and first time giving them a try for Coho, second cast, nice wild ho.... Now I am hooked and always thinking about water that they would work well in. I still try roe and blades first, but spoons aren't far behind. Perhaps I will try them first next time. The canal on Monday was fun. 2 wild coho to the beach quick, while the long liners were wondering what the heck I was doing to actually catch a coho... ;D
 

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young gun said:
do you guys use harware rods(american steelhead rods) 8'6 or 9ft rods or do u stick to the 10'6-11'. If i toss hardware all day i'll use my 9ft cus i can still float fish with it, if i have too.
All I use on the vedder is a fly rod. If I'm not huckin feathers with a fly rod then I'm huckin a sage 1390 RPL-X with a Shimano Chronarch. That set up is awesome for "multi tasking"!!
 

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4 bucks a spoon is a little too pricey for me. Nice looking spoons though. With the boulders on the vedder I would think that I would lose a lot of these. I don't think I am ready to drop $100 getting into spoons. Great info though. I use spoons exclusivly for pinks. I really like the take.
 

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Headshake check out RVRFSHR, prices are much better. 50/50 are $2.70 and silver, gold, brass and black are only $1.70 and they also include hook, swivel, split ring and clip. These are a much better deal and every bit as good as Pen Tac
 

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Fishing spoons often outproduces all other methods. In fact, many spoon fishermen know the success that spoon fishing can bring...

More often than not, some of the brighter, fresher fish are what will be hitting your spoon, not the boot springs and chum...coho love spoons, for those anglers who might be having difficulty weeding through all the stale fish in the river right now, fishing spoons is a very good option that could get you into multiple mint bright coho rather than those boots many of us try to avoid...

I keep a small contingent of spoons with me at all times. They work!!!
 

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Roe_Pig, as I said the hook, swivel, split ring and clip are included for that price ;D The swivel, snap ring and clip are not shown on the website, only the hook. Here is a pic of the "clip" it is between the swivel and spoon. this clip allows better action to the spoon I have found than a regular split ring to attach the swivel. Hope this helps.
 

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You guys ever use or hear of :Little Cleo" spoons?
I'm from Onterrible originally and used to do a ton on Salmon fishing on Lake Ontario and it's tributaries. We only ever used these spoons, usually casting off the pier. They were absolute killers and I'm positive they would be effective here as well.
I'd be curious to know if anyone else is familiar with them, better yet is currently fishing them in BC.

Check them out,

http://www.fishusa.com/tackleshop/c...poons&i=54B18DDDBB9D4FA2B9A282CD44B111BA&fx=1
 

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I haven't tried them but I also carry Dick Nites in silver and brass but haven't used them too much since I've been doing good with my regular spoons. The nickle neon blue and the nickle look good.
 

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I'm a big fan of Dick Nites. I do really well using them for coho stacked up in back waters and sloughs. The slower the water the better they seem to perform. Walleye sure seem to like em too...
 

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Luv the Curado, very smooth reel, has a higher retreive ratio than the Calcutta which you need to keep in mind when chucking spoons or spinners because coho like it slow. Either way they are both good reels.
 

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Thanks for posting the pic of the duo lock clip. I've used the same set up for plugs and spoons. I find that it gives the lure better action and makes the change up quick and easy, especially on cold days. I've had great success with little cleo spoons for summer and winter steelhead, coho, springs, and bull trout. I prefer them in moving water, but have found the tear drop shaped spoons good in slower water for cohos.
 
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