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Fishaholic

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As many of you may now have heard there was a 43.6lb Rainbow caught out of Lake Diefenbaker in Sask. on June 5th. It would appear that they are going recognize this as a record.
http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/fishing/news/story?id=2901070
Lake Diefenbaker is the home of Wild West Steelhead which is a farming operation for what they call "steelhead", yes, pretty much any of the farmed steelhead that you see in the local market have come from this farm.
http://www.agr.gov.sk.ca/docs/reports/f_f_report/ffr0711_4.asp
Sure Triphloid stocks are being planted all over B.C. to improve fish size and quality.....but. Any farming operations have escapees. We have tonnes on the lakes I work at, wether they find the lake through harvesting or holes in the pens, there are a few reasons they could end up in the lake. All these "steelhead" are is a Triphliod grown to mass proportions, they dont taste anything like the real thing. They say the average market size is 2 kilos but I know I can order them in from Vancouver at much larger sizes.
So the question is not about the genetic modifcation of these fishes genes, but should a trout caught from a a lake that has this type of operation on it qualify for a record status. You know that thing probably spent most of its time hanging out under the pens gorging on the pellets that made it through.
I am not on either side of the fence on this one but more interested to your thoughts
 
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Well, to me having a fish such as this take the world record totally skews what the record was truely meant to be. :wallbash: This should NOT be classified a world record. If they must, well.... perhaps they should have there own category. Perhaps biggest Rainbow with in brackets, (genetically modified) beside it... I don't know what others would say to this. But there is my :2cents:

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It looks just like a 23 pounder I saw come out of Sayers a few years back, bloody deformed. It isn't shaped at all like a rainbow or steelhead.
 
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it reminds me of one i had to fillet (farmed steel) about 16 inches long and four and a half pounds, looked like a dinner plate!. but i mean 38 inches long and has the girth of an average man. is that a real trout?
 
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A definite no. It's a triploid, genetically altered my man. I never knew there were rainbows in that lake.
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Well the tripliods are being stocked all over, that will be the way its going to go....but this one was out of a lake where it gets fed daily on food that packs a lot more of a punch than any bugs will.
Sure this was a legitimately caught fish, how legitimately did it get to that size though?
Its not really the genes that make me wonder about this but more the circumstances thats this fish came about?
 
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I am in agreement here with the majority. This fish was not a natural product of nature...what's to stop someone from going for the record by growing another genetically altered fish in a net pen untill it's larger than the current record, then transplanting it into their local pond after starving it for a few days and then casting out a food pellet on a hook...? Should they deserve a record then?

I have always felt that such records were established to celebrate the wonders of nature. To acknowledge someone catching a specimen that represents the pinnacle or peak of a species in size, strength and beauty. I see pictures of that old Steelhead record and think to myself, now that's a magnificent fish, they can can get huge...!!!? I can't believe they can get that big...I would lose my mind if I got one on the line that big...

I look at this picture, and sure, I think holy crap that thing is fat, but I also think right away it doesn't look natural, or like a rainbow at all...and knowing it's origins, I think well, there's record that won't be broken anytime soon...I'd take a wild, natural rainbow at 3 lbs over that abomination any day...

My 2 cents,

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The record thing bothers me... mostly cause I have not got one. But more seriously, some of the record they have in the IGFA are completely absurd - even when the fish is not a mutant. Just look at that ESPN aritical, the guy who got that trout is applying for a 50lb test line record for a 26lb trout - who in there right mind would ever use 50lb test to go fishing for rainbow trout? Its not only the un-sportingly high test classes but un-reasonably low ones too. Targeting marilin on 6lb test dumb and basically its chasing a fish with a boat. It would be something special if fishing for bait or targeting a small spieces you hook and land a some moster of a fish but intentally go after a 200lb fish with 6lb test, come on.
The rules of IGFA negate many of the most impresive catchs, such as the largest blue marlin ever caught is not in there record because it needed two angler to land it. I wonder how many records in BC never make it into 'the offical records' at the IGFA. Do we even have a rep to certify a record in Van?
Another thing that bothered me in that ESPN artical was the 42lb rainbow trout that previously held the record. I hear Alaskan Is. and think that is a steelhead, not rainbow trout. So I went to the IGFA sight to see if Oncorhynchus mykiss or rainbow trout were lumped in with Oncorhynchus mykiss more commonly know as steelhead. The IGFA does not allow un-registered user access to records (maybe that is why I rant or is it that I'm at work). I'm sure that IGAF does not distinguish between rainbow trout and steelhead, but here in BC we sure do and that point to how relative or relivant a record is.
I love the stories that go with all the notable catches but biggest aren't always the best.
Have fun, Jason
 
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its an ugly as looking fish and i would have thought it be radiocactive if i had hooked it and most likely tried to snap it off and let it on its way

in saying that i agree with the steelhead theory as i know of one river that was well known for its huge steelhead which it still recieves just not in huge amounts anymore

some of you might know which one im talking about, hope i get to go there at least once as the steel there are super powerful and would put a Thompson chromer to shame in a few seconds

tight lines

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I've heard from people in Sask that one of the fish farms had a huge breach and lost thousands of rainbows (or steelhead) whatever they are farming there into Diefenbaker. I lived and fished lake diefenbaker when I was much younger and there was never any rainbows in there until a few years ago. Goes to show that these fish farms play havock with the eco-systems.
That fish should not be allowed into the records it is genetically modified. Now if it was a stocked rainbow into a lake where it grew from a 6-8" into a 43lber then yes but not that!
We have such a lake close to Grande Prairie with fish that will challenge the 30lb mark and are actually natural fed on insects. But they are hard to catch like a true trophy is.
 
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