[coho_killer]

I'm reading our local newspaper thismorrning and one of the pages has a heading that says (Fish estimate down) at first they predicted 8.7 million sockeye this year, and now there saying more like 6 million! as apposed to the 17.4 million we had last year! Looks like a slow year on the fraser for sockeye folks! Better get used to eat'in pinks! :happy: :happy: ???

 

[young gun]

If they dont oppen it up BARFISHING THE WHOLE SUMMER! :happy:

 

[coho_killer]

Now how does FOC determin the size of a sockeye run for a specfic river?

C.K.

 

[Steelie Trav]

Now how does FOC determin the size of a sockeye run for a specfic river?

C.K.

Ever see that old airpline ticket commercial where the airline worker throws some chicken feed on a number pad to determine the cost for that days flights?? I bet thats waht they do!

 

[reelangler]

hahaha, wasnt last year the big sockeye run though? that makes the run seem a lot less than last year, because it was. but the difference in what it should be is not that great i dont think.

 

[steely_crazy]

Maybe they just use the Super 7 jackpot numbers????

Seriously though, I hope the numbers arent too low to close it down.

 

[Mike D.]

They take the escapement records...look it over...sit at a long table with a bunch of representatives.....drink coffee.....eat donuts and pastries...and than have the new guy calculate the escapement: escapement - how many they predict made it to the ocean - how many they predict will be killed by predators and fisherman and disease= than the left over from that calculation is how many will make it to the mouth of the fraser...than they do the same thing over again....than when the sockeye don't show up....OH NO! GLOBAL WARMING IS KILLING OFF THE SOCKEYE : than like 2 weeks later about 10 million show up and everyone is happy!

Life being a fisheries official must be hard work :beerchug:

Mike <"))))))><

 

[reelangler]

global warming my a$$

 

[reelangler]

:happy:

 

[young gun]

um it seams to be affecting the coho a little but all other species are doing fine.

 

[reelangler]

um it seams to be affecting the coho a little but all other species are doing fine.

global warming is affecting them? how?

what i ment by that is that i dont think global warming is the big epidemic people are saying it is. the world goes through fases, (ice ages, heat waves etc..) just because the average temperatures are raising, doesnt mean that it hasnt happened before. im sure the world has gone through previous fases. i could be wrong though.

 

[Mike D.]

My opinion on the fish turning up later is....Plankton: Small fish that sockeye love to eat....well the plankton are on the move and have spread away to other waters...sure maybe hotter waters here resolves in this...they went near china or russia etc....so these sockeye go where the food is...so if the distance is 2 weeks further away to the eating ground...than when its time to migrate they are 2 weeks behing schedual....plus a lot are caught by our foreign neighbours!

Now coho...I think they are being over caught on the ocean by fisherman....they are too valnurable for the fly, spoon, hoochie what ever out there.....and are just being slaughtered...so by the time they get back here...through the maze of lines, nets, and predators...there is very few left on their home rivers.....maybe if limits were brought down...there could maybe be more fish returning....

Than again just my opinion....

Mike <"))))))><

 

[young gun]

well look at the stocks back about 4-5 years rivers were packed with coho, lately because of low water and spawning migrations being so stressful many fish parish. Coho are notorious to be gluttons for flashy fast moving baits/lures so comercial fisherman and sport fisherman clean house like mike said. But if mother nature co-operates and goes back into the normal fraser valley weather pattern with down pours throughout the whole year the coho will do just fine.

 

[reelangler]

i hope the wheather goes back to normal, and i think it would be a good idea to bring down the number of fish one can keep. what is the amount? i think one or 2 per day would be fine, and plenty enough. :2cents:

 

[skagit3]

I do see some merrit in the food moving farther away statement. I think it is because of higher water temperatures. I am a believer of "The Earth has cycles argument" rather than the old Global Warming nonsense.

 

[young gun]

Well the old cycle of rain for 2 weeks sunny for 1 day and 2 weeks of rain helped the fish alot more than this 2 months without rain nonsence!

 

[reelangler]

yeah, we could use a little bit of rain.

 

[abbyfireguy]

Rain,more rain,,,,I need waterfront property :wallbash:....
I don't think the fish forecasting methods are very reliable at all..
More money and expetise need to be obtained to get a better accuracy record..
They work with what little is provided.... :-\

 

[reelangler]

whatever the numbers are... the amount of fish that will come in will be the same. just enjoy the fishing and dont worry about it i say.
:beerchug: