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So I was in Campbell river the past couple days with the 8 weight. Nailed a few pinks but also saw some enticing chinooks roll. Schwing!

So I was trying this hole below the narrow bridge (name??) anyways...I just dont think I was getting it deep enough for those fatties. I tried weighted flies, putty and/or splitshot on my leader combined with my rio 9ips sink tip. I never felt bottom so obv I wasn't getting it down. I was wading out as far as I could plus casting almost straight upstream...so frustrating.

a) can anyone tell what I am doing wrong?
b) does rio make faster sink tips that are avail for purchase individually? (tried the website, couldn't tell)
c) am I just attempting the impossible?

Just thinking ahead for days on the Stave, which I've never flyfished before. I gotta be prepared in case I get a chance to get out there!
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Ask the local shop if they have any t14 line. If they do have them make you a 15-20 foot piece to fit on your fly line. I know that reaction does this. This will definately work.
Are you talking about the logging road bridge almost right across from the Elk Falls turn-in, or the one further up stream closer to the dam?
the one just below the campground turn off. I don't think you're allowed to fish above the power lines past the campground...
although I'm not too sure on that closure...maybe it's just below the dam 100m or something...either way, it was in a legal place to fish haha :peace:
bronjuan said:
the one just below the campground turn off. I don't think you're allowed to fish above the power lines past the campground...
The one just below the campground turnoff is the logging road bridge. I've fished there a couple times this week with good success also but never saw any Chinooks. Mind you this was before the rain. oh crap, I'm hijacking.
I agree with Flyguy on getting yourself a chunk of T14. its heavy and then use a big heavy fly with it and you should get down. if the water is more then say 12feet ish you still might not be able to get that deep in this case i would say try doing it like a drift rod like you would fish Egg patterns. Float-weight-fly then you can set your depth as long as you want, this might work but i have never tried this in water deeper then around 8feet.

RFT makes T14 tips and M&Y also has this stuff bulk and could make you up a tip. it pretty cheap to buy this way. I bought my T14 tip at RFT and it cost me $5 i believe. if you buy Rio name brand tips they are like 20something each.
The one just below the campground turnoff is the logging road bridge. I've fished there a couple times this week with good success also but never saw any Chinooks. Mind you this was before the rain. oh crap, I'm hijacking.
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Really? were they coho then?? Either way, they would jump and would sound like someone threw a boulder off the bridge. I'd say they were very high teens/low 20's perhaps bigger. they were right in the fast current in the middle of the river, were silver bullets and big. So i just assumed they were chinooks...I thought coho liked it deep and slow?
you need to use a shooting or leadhead at the end of your fly line. Ask your local fly shop. If they don't know what you are talking about don't go back. Once you get geared up for the depths, then you will need to learn the fine art of the chuck and duck. Have fun.
newsman said:
you need to use a shooting or leadhead at the end of your fly line. Ask your local fly shop. If they don't know what you are talking about don't go back. Once you get geared up for the depths, then you will need to learn the fine art of the chuck and duck. Have fun.
If you ask for a t14 or type 8 sink tip, they will know what you are talking about and you won't have to stop going there. :cheers:
Just to clarify, is the "t14" a faster sink than the type 8? type 8 comes with the rio and this is where I ran into problems.
T14 is a tungsten impregnated line weighing 14 grams per foot and sinks at about 8-9" per second. T 8 sinks about 6-7" per second, i believe.
Yes it is heavier. And like newsman said learn the chuck and duck as you do not want to get hit in the back of the head. OUCH.
Ok there must be something mixed up...so I looked up the t14 on cabelas and it said it sunk at 8-9 ips whereas the type 8 that comes with the rio 8 weight and above, is quoted at sinking at 8-9 ips aswell.

http://www.cabelas.com/link-12/product/0037441319388a.shtml
http://www.rioproducts.com/product.php?fmCategory=10
I have found on Cabelas they sometimes just copy and paste from one thing to another similar thing. pretty annoying if there isnt a review of it for sure. I can tell you it sinks quite faster then a Type 8 and would bet T14 sinks faster then 8-9ips

and the chuck and duck isnt for the line its because that heavy tip will get your fly moving so fast it will knock you the **** out ! I took a couple flies in the back last year and it left huge welts through my jacket and sweater. glad i havent taken one in the head.........yet 8)
newsman said:
Ask your local fly shop. If they don't know what you are talking about don't go back.
;D Nice, I like that one!

The reality is we can weight the heck out of our bugs and use tungsten filled tips till we are blue in the face, but some water is just too deep and fast to be flyfished. That is one of the great things about the sport it limits and challenges us as anglers.
Pat AV said:
The reality is we can weight the heck out of our bugs and use tungsten filled tips till we are blue in the face, but some water is just too deep and fast to be flyfished.
You beat me to it.
When I first fished the Vedder for Steelhead a few years back it was way too high and too fast but I thought I'd try it anyways seeing as I didn't get a chance to fish too often. I lost a lot of flies that day. Not to mention leaders. :p


What about a bouncing betty? :D
mrmugs said:
Pat AV said:
The reality is we can weight the heck out of our bugs and use tungsten filled tips till we are blue in the face, but some water is just too deep and fast to be flyfished.
You beat me to it.
When I first fished the Vedder for Steelhead a few years back it was way too high and too fast but I thought I'd try it anyways seeing as I didn't get a chance to fish too often. I lost a lot of flies that day. Not to mention leaders. :p


What about a bouncing betty? :D
Lol then it becomes a centre pin reel instead of fly fishing :happy:
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