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I for one am very glad to see the monitoring being done, but also quite saddened that this steelhead didn't get back to its home river...hopefully the monitoring keeps the facts straight with what has to be done to protect these great fish.

I wonder if the writer was the only monitor aboard the vessels...if so, how many steelehad suffered the same fate as the one killed by the nets of the Ryan D...

Hopefully all those DFO monitors cruising around kept as close an eye on things as the on board monitor did...
 

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Big Green Machine said:
[one dead thompson steelhead is one too many for a stupid UI stamp clean up fishery /quote]

I agree that steelhead conservation is what we're all after but can you please explain the second part of your comment in more detail? Thanks
i was assuming the fish was a thompson fish. it could have been going to a few other systems, but most likely is a thompson fish.

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One dead steelie is one too many, but I actually ASSumed the numbers would be higher. Glad to hear they monitored it VERY closely.
 

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coho_killer said:
I'm supprised only one steelhead died! Good jub in my eyes!
That was what was observed on ONE boat... And there were 250 boats out there...

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I'd like to see if something could be organized to force every single boat to have a monitor boarded, I would gladly take the day off work for that.

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Nicole said:
I'd like to see if something could be organized to force every single boat to have a monitor boarded, I would gladly take the day off work for that.

Cheers,
Nicole
Hear, hear!!! I second that sentiment. I would want to have a more accurate estimate of the number of fish impacted. A monitor on each ship would certainly improve the certainty of actually determining the openings impact on incidental catches.

Let's say each boat had the same impact as the Ryan D then yes, that would be 250 fish and a significant percentage of the run. It is however still within a reasonable range of probability to expect the number could be even higher than that. On the other hand, it could be lower.

Whatever number of steelhead were killed, any variation around an estimate 250 fish mortality is still alarming. I hope the number is far, far, lower than that. I know that larger runs are expected to have not yet arrived, obviously this fish didn't make it back, how many more suffered the same fate...???

I tried to sign up as a monitor, I wasn't called.

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Nicole said:
I'd like to see if something could be organized to force every single boat to have a monitor boarded, I would gladly take the day off work for that.Cheers,Nicole
I'd like to see every angler who heads up to sportfish Steelhead on the Thompson be required to take-
A-some brains
B-a conscience

If they had either one they wouldn't beat up endangered fish at all they'd leave them be.

Remember that a conservative estimate is that one of 10 C&R'ed fish dies so how many carcasses caused by sportfishign are tumbling along that slippery bottom these days?
 

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Nicole said:
I'd like to see if something could be organized to force every single boat to have a monitor boarded, I would gladly take the day off work for that.Cheers,Nicole
I'd like to see every angler who heads up to sportfish Steelhead on the Thompson be required to take-
A-some brains
B-a conscience

If they had either one they wouldn't beat up endangered fish at all they'd leave them be.

Remember that a conservative estimate is that one of 10 C&R'ed fish dies so how many carcasses caused by sportfishign are tumbling along that slippery bottom these days?
That is a 10% mortality rate...WOW!! Where did this study come from? ??? or is it an 'estimate'? With these #'s that means sporties killed hundreds of steelhead last year....Hmmm.
 

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I'd like to see every angler who heads up to sportfish Steelhead on the Thompson be required to take-
A-some brains
B-a conscience

If they had either one they wouldn't beat up endangered fish at all they'd leave them be.

Remember that a conservative estimate is that one of 10 C&R'ed fish dies so how many carcasses caused by sportfishign are tumbling along that slippery bottom these days?

yes, just because it is open, doesn't mean it should be open. personally, i'm still wrestling with this one. my brain is telling me to go. my heart is telling me to give it a miss. maybe for a day or two, but definetly not to camp out at the grease hole for a couple weeks. DAMN CONSCIENCE!!

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What type of nets were used. I would assume some type of gill net. There was a intresting article in the latest SSJ in regards to the comm fishing that decimated the Skeena. In the report they say ant steelhead caught in a gill net has a a slim chance of survival. Studies shown that steelhead die with in 24 hours between 66 and 80 percent of the time after they are caught in a gill net . tThe story also points out the fact that with 250 boats out there is high probability for a second encatchment. Did'nt we just go thrugh a summer of closures to protect accidental catches of socks, Now we are trying to protect a even more fragile stock and they still allow a commy opening to catch chum What the "beep" are the power that be thinking. What are the chummers used for any way Dog food and fertilizer. :wallbash: :wallbash:
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