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ventured out to Island 22 boat launch on Saturday afternoon. While I was watching the boats come and go, a blue guide boat pulled in and dropped off their customers. They were an English couple, husband and wife that had been out sturgeon fishing for the day. He loved it, caught a few including a 5-6 footer. I ask them how the were enjoying their stay and where else they were going to fish. He then proceeded to tell me how he was being guided fly fishing for trout on Wednesday and Thursday this week. First to the Skagit and then to the Thompson. I thought it was interesting to know he was being taken fly fishing to a river (Thompson) that guiding is not allowed on at present time. Now I wonder just how much this is or is not happening on rivers like the Thomspon.
 

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I would imagine probably fairly regularly. Did you happen to ask them what outfit is guiding them? I'd be curious how they are advertising for these trips and how they are selling them. It would be curious to see what would happen in terms of liability and coverage should anything happen during one of these trips.
 

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I had an interesting experience at the vedder fish hatchery back in early augaust. I stopped in at the hatchery after an enjoyable day with my trout rod. A family of 3 (dad with son and daughter we just leaving and stopped to ask me how my day went. After a few minutes discussion they tell me there from texas and ask me if I'm a guide or if I would like to for the day! All the while assuring me I would be compensated for my time. I graciously declined but it did make me wonder how many others are being "propositioned" ;) while out there fishing. I'm sure some illegal guiding takes place in this manner, I just don`t know how big a problem it is. I`m sure some of you who spend many more hours on the vedder than I do must have this type of thing come up from time to time. :peace:

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Hmmmm i have had a couple people ask before however i just tell them i could take them and show the ropes for FREE as i am not a guide and respect people that have to live their lives doing this. on that note i will also point them towards a couple guide services with good reps if thats what they really want O0
 

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Lol I take my friends out alot, but have never taken anyone that has asked me while out on the river, and I doubt I ever would. I try to keep the areas I like to fish between friends.I have been asked once out on the river if I would take them around (for money) and I declined but told them I would help them out anyways.
 

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I would imagine probably fairly regularly. Did you happen to ask them what outfit is guiding them? I'd be curious how they are advertising for these trips and how they are selling them. It would be curious to see what would happen in terms of liability and coverage should anything happen during one of these trips.
I did ask for the name of the outfit and got one. I have contacted MoE in Kamloops to report what I know. So far can't get a live CO but I will be trying a few more times.
 

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Illegal guiding is alive and well in the Fraser Valley, Americans and Canadians I have witnessed doing it. I always make a call and hope they persue it.
One CO I spoke with about a particular guy who illegal guides, says it is very difficult to nail these guys down as most "friends ::)" are in on the action and understand they can get a cheap trip as these guys have far less invested in the venture.
If you see this happening make the call, but be sure you are certain there is wrong doing involved.
 

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I have been on a river where other guides do try to see who is fishing in "their territory". I was taken aback when first asked, but then I do see their point. Of course, we were just a couple of friends out fishing for a good time. Its also too bad that we seemed to be catching more fish than the so called "guides" :)
 

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I was actually being serious Stone :p cause i looked it up a bit the other day and i couldnt really find anything. there was this one site though where they take you out in this area and teach you all about it and blah,blah,blah and then bang you can guide in that and surrounding areas :confused: it cost like $1200 per person :-\ for 4days in the bush.

I just thought there might be something like that down here also. where you go in and learn about all the different species of fish, techniques of fishing, conservation methods, and yadda yadda yadda.
 

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I had a friend who got his guiding licence, he was told what he needed learn and was basically left on his own. He did pass the test though. After a couple years he packed it in, insurance was costly (he was running his own boat) and is a tough business to start on your own and compete against the established outfits especially when fishing is not what it used to be.
 

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hey Hook, you would need a class that will teach you how to ask people for money :happy:

Seriously, I personally think we should leave the Guiding to professionals that do it as a job! It is more important for them than for a bunch of guys bringing tourists here and there at their favorite spots. SO, my comment here is:

IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A JOB KEEP FISHING FOR PASSION AND SHARE YOUR KNOWLEDGE WITH FRIENDS! Don't try to get a license just for having sporadic few $$. This will not make your rich and for sure will not help professionals.

:beerchug:

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