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I will be purchasing a boat from a USA Dealership (Washington State) and bringing it accross the boarder, any suggestions or heads up I should be aware of.

Thanks in adv for the heads up , I hope to make it a smooth as possible.

Cape R
 

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sage2106lb said:
I think you should go to Oregon and save even more money. No state tax :cheers: sage
If you're an out-of-State resident, do you still have to pay taxes on boats? I don't believe you do with cars, so I wonder if it's different with boats.

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Steeliesrking you are the MAN !!

Thanks for the information string on buy boats in the states, it really helped !

Great Information, Thank you .... you made my day ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Hey Cape

Trust me when I say this.....do not lie to Canada Border Services when you come through....keep everything above board....the officers there have seen every trick in the book and are trained to detect people who lie...your story wont hold i guarantee it!

If you have any Customs related questions just go to www.cbsa.gc.ca or you could always call down and speak to an officer to ensure you handle it correctly.

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One thing that CBSA failed to tell me when i called them was you have to export your money before you import it to the United States. The glorified tax collector who though he was a elite paramilitary fighting force member threatened to arrest me even though i had all the paper work in place, but didn't do that step.
 

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From my experience (under $10,000) it is easy, but have all of your paperwork in order and as mentioned above, don't try to scam the border. Make sure you have the Bill of sale for both the boat and trailer, both titles signed off and make sure you bring the ad (used boats) that you found the boat (ie. craigslist) this will help the border believe the price you paid for it. I bought a parts boat from ferndale for $300 and the guy at the border straight up told me I was a liar. I didn't have the craigslist ad with the asking price so I was delayed while he went on and found the ad, which was priced at $350 so they let me go....but they don't say sorry.
 

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I bought an used ARIMA BOAT in EVERETT WA. for $9000. [1996 yr of boat] If I had to do it over again I would [many sujj to do the same] buy a boat trailer here in BC. Get it insured ...put on BC lic plates & go to USA & pick up the boat. [ bring along ownership & insurance paper work so if border guards ask [US & Canada guards] You can bring along I believe a CASHIERS CHEQUE which you can get at your bank or credit union for the amount of the boat. As your from BC you do not pay SALES TAX in Wa. for your boat. Make sure when you come to the Canada border you have the TITLE for the boat in your name [this shows you are the new owner] also sales paper. At Canada customs you then will pay taxes on the boat. [ no duty on boats...free trade] Then you are home free.... If you bring up the trailer from the USA like I did there is more paper work.... plus you have to bring it to Canadian tire to get trailor inspected... then when they stamp papers that trailor meets Canadian standards I brought trailor to get insured & the insurance agent at two places gave me a hassle & they would not sell me insurance[ they were not familiar with some of the paperwk from USA] Finally I got the agent to call ICBC HEAD OFFICE & they told the guy .... "GIVE HIM INSURANCE" [FINALLY] Bring down your own trailor & just get the USA boat... then it is "WAY LESS HASSLE" You can get great deals in Wa. Check out boats on SEATTLE CRAIGSLIST God bless
 

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I have purchased a boat/trailer and a travel trailer in washington state in the last year. I used US cash. paid taxes at the border. got trailers inspected at canadian tire and then insured them. no problems. Watch for scammers if you buy privately. You need to have a clear title in hand and a sales receipt(hand written will work) to cross.
 

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Hey Dave,

I always hear about a clear title, so to make sure I know what I am looking at ;

What is a title ?

How do you know if its a clear and authentic ?

Is there a sure way to know ?

Cape R
Sorry for the stupid questions but better to be stupid then sorry LOL
 

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a title is how they keep track of who owns things in the states. Kind of like registering your car or boat, but they have it for most everything. If you stop into any of the customs offices along the border, i am sure they can show you.
 

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A lot of lenders in the US keep electronic titles, so paper titles aren't always readily available. If you purchase a unit from someone that has a lien on their item, they must pay off the unit before the bank can generate the title via the State of WA.

At the time of paying off the unit, the bank can issue an application in lieu of title which will also suffice at the Border. Currently, the State of WA is about 45 days out for issuing titles on items that are in the system as electronic titles.

I did this last year for a buyer that came down to WA from BC. Very easy.
 

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Hummmm,

I have been a Canadian banker for 25 years but still don't understand the US ways :hmmm:

What if a guy purchase a boat, lets say from a USA Bayliner dealership on Jan 1, 2008 with a cheque from his chequing account (thus no borrowing) , does this mean that the Bayliner dealership gives him a clear title ?

Then on Jan 5, 2008 this same guy goes to a USA bank and gets a collateral loan against his 100,000 boat for 20,000 , the bank now has a lien.

Lets say I then go to the guy on Jan 8, 2008 and I ask for the clear title and he gives me the clear title he got from the Bayliner dealership not telling me about the collateral mortgage he gave to the bank on Jan 5, 2008 and I give him the certified funds.

Were would the USA bank security interest show up on the document ?

Eventhough the guy could give me a clear title (from the bayliner dealership) what good would it be to me.

In Canada we ; 1) Sign documents
2) Registered a secured interest on the serial number on the PPSA and Borrower
3) We request all debtors release their interest (giving our registration a prior secured interest)
4) Funds disbursed

I am not sure what happens in the US , maybe that's why they got a $700 billion dollar bail out going on but, I would be very Leary giving someone 100,000 or just 5,000 for just a "Clear Title" document and then going to the boarder to find out what they say :hmmm: but still how would they know (you have a clear title )

But maybe its just my banking background ;) but I still don't feel comfortable with it :hmmm:

Cape R
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