[Lastcar]

Wouldn't matter what gear one chooses in Logan Lake now. The fish are gone. The proposed causes are; the product used by highways to de-ice the road; the fertilizers from the neighbouring golfcourse, the aerator not being turned on in winter too allow for ice thick enough for the pond hockey tourney along with other less probable theories.

Either way it is firmly believed that Logan Lake no longer contains fish.

Right or wrong the winter use of the ice for the Winter Carnival and Pond Hockey Tourney in the winter and the golf course in the summer has been determined to bring more to the community than a viable fishing option right in town. I assume 'the powers to be' feel there is enough great fishing in the area that it is worth diversifying the use of Logan Lake.

No opinion intended, simply provided the info as I know it. I am nuetral on the topic.

 

[HOOK]

Logan Lake die off?

so what your saying is that in the last 3yrs since I fished this the lake had "died off" that is sure a shame if it has because there were some lunkers in there.

 

[Pat AV]

Logan Lake Die off?

I second Hooks sentiments that Logan was a nice lake that will be missed. Good spot to hit for a couple of hours "on the way through" to bigger and better things.

edited to reflect topic being moved :

 

[dereke]

I drive by there alot because of where (Highland Valey Copper Mine) I work and was wondering why all summer there was literally NO top water activity at all. I had heard some rumors but I guess that explains the lack of fish around. Too bad I have heard of some really nice fish being caught out of there in years past.. :'( :'(

 

[Thor]

That is a nice lake. Always wanted to "hit" it someday. Maybe it'll comeback.

 

[Lastcar]

From what I understand Brian Chan is not willing to place any new fish into the lake until the cause is identified and resolved. The cause may not even be important if the three probable causes are discontinued.

Not sure if there is an alternative for deicing the highway that parallels the lake.

From what I understand there is no desire on the part of the town, highway contractor or golf course to do anything differently.

 

[Pat AV]

It really is up to the People of Logan Lake, if they put up a fuss maybe somthing will be done.

If they sit and do nothing they will be the ones to loose out the most.

 

[Lastcar]

I hear you PatAV, however I think that is the deal...the locals are content to do without the fishing in town in lieu of increased tourism with the winter carnival and golf course. I have heard this from those in the sport fishing business and a conversation with a couple of folks from Logan Lake.

Perhaps others on here are from Logan Lake or know someone who is and willing to provide us their take on it.

Although my info is fairly reliable it would be interesting to get a few residents, whom have no direct relation to the potential causes, to voice their sentiments.

 

[Pat AV]

Lastcar,

I agree totaly. The attitude of the locals is not surprising from what I understand the Highland Valley mine is on its last stretch (maybe 20 years left?) tourism will hopefully be one of the industries that can save the town post copper mining. I am sure dereke could shed more light on this

Fishing can also be a part of the tourism solution. There are hard days ahead for that little town and if people are fighting for somthing other than a small put and take lake I guess who am I to blame them?

Tough situation, I should have thought out my previous post longer before writing it. :-\

 

[professori]

On a positivie note, the chief mining engineer for Highland Valley Copper is an avid fisherman. He allowing retired pits to fill with water and is trying to establish a number of trophy lakes on the property that will be there when the mining shuts down. I have fished one of his lakes (a retired tailings pond) that is used to hold brood stock. I have been there to watch spawning (he has his own program), and there were close to a thousand rainbows in the 4 holding ponds. This was the most amazing sight, because the light-weight spawners were probably 4-5 lbs, and many in the 10lb plus range. When I talked to him a few years back, he was saying the plan was to shut down the entire mine in less than 10 years. The present price of copper may have extended that time somewhat, but the mine is about used up.

 

[EZ Rolling]

It's good to know that someone is thinking of the future.

 

[dereke]

If copper prices stay where they are at there will many years left at HVC. Its not a matter of running out of copper, there is well beyond my working career and maybe my kids worth of ore that they know about in the area, but a matter of how much it is going to cost to get at it. some deposits of ore that are in between the mine and logan lake are under alot of overburden (6-800 ft) but if they decide to go for it it will be as big as our biggest pit now. Copper prices will have to stay high to make this viable. With china and india buying up all the worlds surplus of core building materials there really is no end in site for now. we have been guaranteed to stay open through 2019 but with all the new equipment and mass hiring that has gone on up there its really hard to see it closing then. To get an idea of how much ore there is in between logan lake and the mine I will post two pics, one of our biggest pit (note each line on the high wall is a fifty foot bench and the trucks on the bottom are as big as a house) and to get an idea of the size of the trucks in the bottom here is a pic of our fuel man fueling up my truck. there is a large environmental effort going on for not only fish but for the whole area. our waste piles of overburden are made into hills and covered with grasses for grazing deer and rodents of all kinds. the dust has been a problem from our crushed rock pile and they are now encircling them with a skirt to minimize damage done by the dust. dont get me wrong there is alot of affect on an area when you take out a 3-4 km wide by about a km deep of the existing earth but it is not all bad.

I guess all im saying is there is alot of ore in the whole area and HVC owns a huge amount of the land around there.

Here is our big pit

heres the truck

hey prof you lucky bugger, i have wanted to get some access into those lakes that are full of monsters but havent had the chance :thumbup: :thumbup:

happy holidays
derek

 

[HOOK]

God damn it Dereke that must be TONS of fun driving one of those gigantic trucks ;D do you guys have any of the monster, monster ones I have seen on "how'd they build that" they are like 5 of those trucks in size


HOOK

 

[Pat AV]

sounds like good news for the town dereke

 

[professori]

Dereke PM sent

 

[Lastcar]

Every summer the mine has an open house. It is pretty cool, you can go on tours of the mining operation, the reclamation areas (where the lakes are), the ore processing and a few others which I don't recall. There is stuff for the kids, static displays, one of the trucks which they take your pic with and print for you, lots of free food and drink etc.

You wouldn't believe how much fuel those trucks use in a day. For fear of over exaggerating, which would be hard to do, I will leave it to Dereke to provide the number

It is pretty cool if you are into big toys and big sand boxes...

Dereke can probably provide the dates and more details. Worth checking out. We are at Tunkwa in the summers so it is just up the road and makes for a break from fishing the lakes in the heat of August(?).

The other chance to not only see the lakes but to fish them is the fund raiser tourney on the Trojan Pond. You get to fish the Trojan Pond on tourney day and a lake of your choice the day before. I'll warn you in advance the tourney is a fund raiser and includes an auction for which the goal is to make money for local health care. I have heard the organizers are trying to 'up' the clientèle in order to raise more money for the health care operation in the area. Point being it is not necessarily for the guy looking to spend a few bucks to get on the mine lakes, they are looking for people willing to come and bid and outbid each other on the auction items regardless of the items value as it is for a good cause. So if this is you and you want to fish these lakes I would look into it.

 

[stsfisher]

ya my buddy puts in a boat every year into the trojan pond, he says it is a great time for a great cause and you get to fish wth guys like Brian chan, Gordon honey and the rest of the fly fishing go-roos. maybe i will have to finally join him this year.

 

[Al P.]

Driving by Logan Lake daily, I see they have had the aerator running full blast, with an area of the lake open and marked off. Hoping they are keeping it aerated for a reason.....
Al P.

 

[Pat AV]

Thanks for the update Al...here's hoping!

 

[dereke]

Al do you live in Logan Lake or work at the mine?