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I was watching KOMO news for the new lingerie football team try out in Seattle when I saw a story about salmon sharks washing in Washington and Oregon nearly dead from parasites. They did not name the parasite but any salmon fisher will know them as sea lice. Wonder how they became so abundant that salmon shark are being killed by them? The link I have does not show the parasites but they were covering its gill slits.

http://www.komonews.com/outdoors/news/30396779.html

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bigjay Wow that's something else... A salmon shark or I assume in other words a dog fish getting so weak by the lice... a dog fish is a very hardy fish... In the post I started about biulding more fish hatcheries got some interesting replies one of them "about a sea lice problem" in our waters fueled by these fish farms appartantly. There is alot of evidence to back this up other "posts" said. Maybe this is the reason the oulligan "spelling ?" which came I guess in the billions in the Fraser R yearly are now having so low returns now !!! These candle fish as the natives call them are very small in size so lice could easily kill them . Our small fry are being killed off by them & lice will attack every kind of fish... Forty five yrs ago in the Ashern Manitoba area NW of Winnipeg the mosquitos bulldog flies etc... were so thick they literally were killing the cattle !!! Farmers had to spray their cows & bulls with chemicals daily protect them. Should this lice problem increase come directly from fish farms the gov. has to ask themselves what are the priorities & what is the MORAL THING to do...... is the ALMIGHTY DOLLAR going to come first which seems to be corrupting our goverments rather than doing what is right? "fish farms" supply the salmon demand around the world but at what costs ??? Plus a farmed salmon is not good for one's health... so what's the point of eating them... isn't Cambell leader of the BC Liberals saying he wants junk food out of schools for the health of students... I think the real reason why gov is trying to get us healthier is so we will save on HEALTH CARE COSTS... again a money issue... The facts seem to back up sea lice are killing our wild fish & the lice are coming from fish farms!!!!!
 

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bigjay said:
They did not name the parasite but any salmon fisher will know them as sea lice. Wonder how they became so abundant that salmon shark are being killed by them? The link I have does not show the parasites but they were covering its gill slits.
If they were in fact Sea Lice then surely Staff @ the Aquarium would recognise them as such since they are a very common occurence, your baseless speculation is just that.

bronjuan said:
I'm pretty sure salmon sharks are a species of their own.
Yes they are, quite common in the North Pacific, never landed one but have had cutoffs.

Lots of info here http://www.arkive.org/species/GES/fish/Lamna_ditropis/

 

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Did some one say these salmon shark are common in North Pacific waters??? SHIT look at those teeth... I hope they stay quite a ways from the coast & way way out off shore...in deep waters. I wouldn't want one of those suckers with in 5 miles of me when swimming at the beach at White Rock !!!!!! But something is attacking these fish just like the dauphins washing up dead on the east coast which has been happening for quite a few years.
 

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Yes, Salmon Sharks are native to the north west waters. I have a magazine that did a whole write up on them. There is actually a guided fishery for them now. They use whole Salmon(minus the filet's) as bait. In the article it said they were in a chopper above the mouth of a river by the Charlotte's some where when the pinks were entering, and counted 300 plus Salmon sharks schooling up the pinks. Pretty crazy, I believe they are the cousin of the Mako shark, but I have never heard of a human attack. I think they get there name for what they are after. I think your safe swimming in our waters! :cheers:

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Pretty crazy, I believe they are the cousin of the Mako shark, but I have never heard of a human attack. I think they get there name for what they are after. I think your safe swimming in our waters! :cheers:
Just until the salmon run out then we are next on the menu. Just one more reason to save our salmon!!! :happy: :happy:
 

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besty 300 of these suckers eating up the pinks !!! Man what next are taking down the numbers of our salmon stocks!!! Nets seals lice whales pollution global warming on & on... & now sharks !!! Can you imagine if these sharks populate into 100's of thousands or millions... they will take out a large % of the salmon..... bigjay I hope these parasites do kill them off but I assume what's killing them is also killing salmon... sarg I think you make a good pt. as we literally could be next on their menu if they get starving...a five footer with teeth like that I'm sure would have an easy time taking a human apart...as we're in their element "water"... I've scuba dived in the past & have been down to 160 ft at whitecliff pk I think it was called ...located in West Van a little too deep for a sport diver but imagine seeing one of those suckers! Had to come up slowly so not to get the bends... By the way my other post with the four "dots" was not a word that starts with " F " but rather with the letter " S " Ha! I believe in the "GOOD LORD" so I try not to use "bad words"
 

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As with seals the salmon sharks have been here for quite some time and can create a balance with salmon stocks. When large fish and animals start washing up on shore from an abundance or parasites I can assure you this is not a good sign. We are resposible for the decline of the salmon stocks but for whatever reason we don't take enough resposibility.

Thanks for the article bigjay.
 

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arimaBOATER,
you don't have to worry about the salmon sharks... it's the white sharks you've gotta worry about. The water off the WCVI is warm enough and white have been spotted as far North as the QCI.

The odd salmon shark has been caught on the in-side but usually small ones. Really, the only thing to worry about are the man biting dogfish between Hornby and Denman Islands (sometime they get as far as Tribune Bay). Seriously people get bitten by those bugger around there. I've even seen doggies go after hooked salmon around Coho King taking bites out of them (it was on the old Buzz Bomb/Zzinger promotional video.

As for real shark eating people for food, if they did we would never ever go swimming.

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bigjay Wow never realized those dog fish were that aggressive... they look like a shark so assume they are in the shark family. Caught one this yr at Sandheads ---about 3fter---I didn't realize I had it on till reeled in '''just to check my line!!!! Harbour seals by Jericho were biting a few dogs ...real family dogs... one or two yrs. ago...seen it on local news... the owner's pet dog survived but needed vet care. Dog must of been fetching a stick or something. Plus did you see last wk. a man sport fishing in an Austrailan river got killed by a croc they assume. What gets me they showed a search boat looking for the missing man... Looked like a 12 ft car topper!!! Man if there's an 6 to 8 ft croc as the news report sad I would not be in a small cartopper. I remember a report a few years ago saying what you said...sometimes GREAT WHITE SHARKS do venture into the PACIFIC NORTH WEST if some warm ocean currents sometimes push there way up here...warmer water in some yrs. Just glad I wasn't born a salmon... they are a target from day one with 95% of them falling victim in one way or another. My dear dad's 83rd birthday today & exactly one yr. since we got our ARIMA BOAT a 1996 Sea Explorer 16ft so got to do a little celebrating soon ... Dad loves to boat & fish. He's lost two salmon this year so he's really needing to catch one soon..... He's brought in a flounder 12"... & last time we were out 5 days ago a 6" bullhead hit his coyote spoon !!! Fraser R. Have a good one.
 

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small_axe said:
bigjay said:
Speculation? You tell me what these critters look like?
Parasites of an unknown kind-as I posted earlier.

I'll leave the scientific analysis to those with accredited qualifications.
Does it matter?? The fact is these are parasites and kudos to bigjay for reporting this. Let's hope they don't affect the salmon species. I wonder what the cause is, warmer waters?
 

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Bigjay

Did a little home work - I contacted the website and they advised they were sea lice - but no other info - so I contacted the aquarium
and yesterday they contacted me back and said they would see if anyone kept a sample - and if so they would advise what they could about the specie of sea lice etc

I was interested to know if these sea lice are identical to the sea lice found around the salmon farms on the BC coast

will update when I hear anymore

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arimaBOATER said:
Plus did you see last wk. a man sport fishing in an Austrailan river got killed by a croc they assume. What gets me they showed a search boat looking for the missing man... Looked like a 12 ft car topper!!! Man if there's an 6 to 8 ft croc as the news report sad I would not be in a small cartopper.
Don't mean to hijack or sidetrack.... but I was just down in Auz while this "attack" happened. Although I felt for the 60+ year old bloke I was real happy to report back that it wasn't me. :naughty: But I WAS treading VERY lightly at a distance from any river systems we were near. Most of the time I was frolicking in the surf with my surf board, cunning and smarts to protect me. :peace:

The guy went to check his crab traps in a river.....didn't return and all they found was what appeared to be drag marks on the bank. I think his sandals and the odd other personal belonging were found in the following days/week. I was up in Northern Queensland last week and they had trapped 3 crocs that they were going to be doing x-rays on to see if there were human remains inside.

Oh.....and Arima.....they weren't 6 to 8 ft......they were looking at crocs that were roughly up to 6 meters....or ~18ft. These were not small crocs.....the smallest trapped if I recall correctly was about 10' and was quickly ruled out as being "too small" to be the "culprit".

When I left Auz this past Sunday morning they hadn't yet released results of the x-ray's as they were too happen in the early part of this week.
 
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