Redds and Wading
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Cool Video
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An anarkissed :wink: better than the real one.
What proof do you have that redd walked up on are dead?
Most of the streams our fish run in are ones with current... does current move gravel? Is autum the time with highest flow? NO! Gravel and stones bigger do move often.
That sound is the river and it was there before the fish.
Have fun, Jason
An anarkissed :wink: better than the real one.
What proof do you have that redd walked up on are dead?
Most of the streams our fish run in are ones with current... does current move gravel? Is autum the time with highest flow? NO! Gravel and stones bigger do move often.
That sound is the river and it was there before the fish.
Have fun, Jason
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Good post Sanderson. Avoiding spawning redds is important at this time. Normally shallow water with small gravel bottom is the preferred spawning spot for steelies, and this is exactly the type of water fisherman like to wade across. Think before you wade guys.
Big Jay, not sure what your post even means, but if you are insinuating that crossing through redds is ok and not harmful, then it's time to brush up on some simple biology and physics.Stomping across redds and moving water are 2 very different things.
Big Jay, not sure what your post even means, but if you are insinuating that crossing through redds is ok and not harmful, then it's time to brush up on some simple biology and physics.Stomping across redds and moving water are 2 very different things.
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Nice video, man........There are several things to note in the video.
Firstly, for you newbie steelheaders out there, note the structure the two of them are behind, There are several large rocks on the stream bed which break up the current and allows them to rest. They do leave this area breifly, but soon return..If the water was not so clear, this is the spot you would want to fish during the earliet part of the season....
Secondly, I find it a bit amazing that these two fish are spawning in an area that has very little "cover"....They would surely be easy pickings for an eagle or mammal......When the female drops her eggs, as mentioned in the video, a large portion of the eggs go unfertilized and float down the river and are quickly devoured by the resident 'bows and cutty's.
If you were to check a few meters behind a pair of fish like this you would undoubtably see the little trout fighting over the eggs.....The few that do get fertilized have to endure the wrath of the weather, dry creek/river beds and a whole lot of hazards prior to hatching.
The caution on this post is to avoid wading in such areas, however, I submit there are very few fishers that would know where these areas are in any given river...Ortho
Firstly, for you newbie steelheaders out there, note the structure the two of them are behind, There are several large rocks on the stream bed which break up the current and allows them to rest. They do leave this area breifly, but soon return..If the water was not so clear, this is the spot you would want to fish during the earliet part of the season....
Secondly, I find it a bit amazing that these two fish are spawning in an area that has very little "cover"....They would surely be easy pickings for an eagle or mammal......When the female drops her eggs, as mentioned in the video, a large portion of the eggs go unfertilized and float down the river and are quickly devoured by the resident 'bows and cutty's.
If you were to check a few meters behind a pair of fish like this you would undoubtably see the little trout fighting over the eggs.....The few that do get fertilized have to endure the wrath of the weather, dry creek/river beds and a whole lot of hazards prior to hatching.
The caution on this post is to avoid wading in such areas, however, I submit there are very few fishers that would know where these areas are in any given river...Ortho
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And my point is, if this little side channel is covered by two or three feet of water in the next month with runoff, then dries completely up in the summer, or has limited water cover....who would ever know it is a redd? Isn't that what river closures are for?....Ortho
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Stiring the pot.
:wink: Just stiring the pot thats all. Learnd my lesson crossing a river stacked with sockeye, my boss yells, "That F____ redd you idot." We finished shocking the stream - carefully. Nearly got shocked to death as large 20+ chinook was under a cut bank and I almost went in... also never sit on culvert if electorfishing, its bad new. :wink: :wink: Sometimes conjecture causes more people to read and that is good for redds. But still I have never seen any studies that tell how natural hydrology effect the fecumnity of a redd... when a stream hit its high water mark lots of stone and gravel move what happens to the eggs? Surely not all survive.
Sorry for the possible anti conservation post.
Oh, I didn't finish my fisheries bio, mostly cause of physics and calculus... realtionship are a problem.
Have fun, Jason
:wink: Just stiring the pot thats all. Learnd my lesson crossing a river stacked with sockeye, my boss yells, "That F____ redd you idot." We finished shocking the stream - carefully. Nearly got shocked to death as large 20+ chinook was under a cut bank and I almost went in... also never sit on culvert if electorfishing, its bad new. :wink: :wink: Sometimes conjecture causes more people to read and that is good for redds. But still I have never seen any studies that tell how natural hydrology effect the fecumnity of a redd... when a stream hit its high water mark lots of stone and gravel move what happens to the eggs? Surely not all survive.
Sorry for the possible anti conservation post.
Oh, I didn't finish my fisheries bio, mostly cause of physics and calculus... realtionship are a problem.
Have fun, Jason
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Again Sorry for the insunuation.
The idea of a redd should be enough to keep fishers off of them. Really, to say that I don't walk on redd cause of damage is not the point. It is kind of like sc___ing in you perents bed... disturbing whether or not there are repocusion.
I am not saying I have never been guilty but my folks never found out and I have since changed never fishing for ling cod in the spring or disterbing redds.
Have fun, Jason
The idea of a redd should be enough to keep fishers off of them. Really, to say that I don't walk on redd cause of damage is not the point. It is kind of like sc___ing in you perents bed... disturbing whether or not there are repocusion.I am not saying I have never been guilty but my folks never found out and I have since changed never fishing for ling cod in the spring or disterbing redds.
Have fun, Jason
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