[bravo252]

"“Bait” is any foodstuff or natural substance used to attract fish, other than wood, cotton, wool, hair, fur or feathers. It does not include fin fish, other than roe. It includes roe, worms and other edible substances, as well as scents and flavourings containing natural substances or nutrients."

The quate above is the meaning of bait from the regulation.
I am still so confusing about the theory :, and I think that the plastic bait is not natural substances or nutrients.
Is it limited with wood, cotton, wool, hair, fur, or feathers only?? ???

Can anyone please clarify this for me?? :thumbup:

Thanks in advance!!! :happy: :beerchug: :drunk: :wallbash:

Bravo~!!

 

[HOOK]

we have discussed this before but the jist of it is

if its SCENTED then its bait regardless it its even wood,wool,fur or otherwise

hope that helps ;D

 

[11th Warrior]

"“Bait” is any foodstuff or natural substance used to attract fish, other than wood, cotton, wool, hair, fur or feathers.

That pretty much says it all, right there.

 

[chummer]

we have discussed this before but the jist of it is

if its SCENTED then its bait regardless it its even wood,wool,fur or otherwise

hope that helps ;D

"scents and flavourings containing natural substances or nutrients."

The regulation clearly excludes artificial scents without nutrients.

 

[HOOK]

ok but what if you "scented" your wool? all the natural scents contain nutrients do they not? i know alot of guys that scent their wool for coho especially

 

[professori]

we have discussed this before but the jist of it is

if its SCENTED then its bait regardless it its even wood,wool,fur or otherwise

hope that helps ;D

"scents and flavourings containing natural substances or nutrients."

The regulation clearly excludes artificial scents without nutrients.

Yup, if you scent your flies with WD-40, I guess it wouldn't be bait. That said, most plastic baits are scented with some natural substances, e.g. anise oil. These are bait.

 

[11th Warrior]

we have discussed this before but the jist of it is

if its SCENTED then its bait regardless it its even wood,wool,fur or otherwise

hope that helps ;D

"scents and flavourings containing natural substances or nutrients."

The regulation clearly excludes artificial scents without nutrients.

So you would use Berkley Powerbait? They don't contain nutrients, but they're considered bait.

 

[xgolfman]

No scent period...

 

[JetBoat Jim]

this is a super fine line................better to call MOE and ask for yourself. but adding scent is not legal.but jensen eggs are just rubber eggs put in oil to make them more customer appealing. if you wipe them off ,what could they say? rubber WILL NOT soak up the scent, its rubber.

 

[chummer]

we have discussed this before but the jist of it is

if its SCENTED then its bait regardless it its even wood,wool,fur or otherwise

hope that helps ;D

"scents and flavourings containing natural substances or nutrients."

The regulation clearly excludes artificial scents without nutrients.

So you would use Berkley Powerbait? They don't contain nutrients, but they're considered bait.

I requested "Pure Fishing" provide me with a list of their soft plastic baits that do not contain "scents and flavourings containing natural substances or nutrients".
Definition of a bait is clear and anything in the list would be legal on bait ban waters, I believe.

 

[Rick Baerg]

Here is a link to previous discussions, http://www.bcfishingreports.com/forum/index.php/topic,6488.0.html

 

[11th Warrior]

Ok, I'm going to go out on a limb here and hope I don't get "binned'

I make soap as a hobby (don't ask...not even once). I have more natural essential oils in my workroom than you can shake a stick at. I usually take a small bar of "fishermans soap" with me when I go out (it's biodegradable and harmless to the environment). If that soap has anise oil in it (which it does) and I wash my hands with it, then handle my flies....am I "scenting" my flies?

 

[STLHDR]

Scent = Bait

It is possible to buy unscented jensen eggs for bait ban rivers.

 

[JetBoat Jim]

does anybody know how to use a phone ?....................call MOE or dfo

 

[fishortho]

If anyone is fishing a river with a bait ban, why not just stick to flies, hardware, spinners, spoons, wool ties, etc......Forget the scent, forget the power bait, forget the rubber worms with "scent".forget the Jensen, unscented (but maybe place them in the freezer next to the prawns)....C'mon guys why press the buttons ??....Go fish another river if you need to catch a fish that bad............Ortho 8)

 

[Britguy]

i am with you there Ortho :thumbup:
how desperate are you guys to catch a fish :wallbash:

One tip i use "if you think its wrong it most likley is"
so dont do it :naughty:
unless your life depends on it

 

[Every Day]

I agree that anytime rules are broken they should be reported right away, Im guilty of waiting too long to report something and having the guy walk away, kinda sucks knowing you could have taken another loser off the river :wallbash:

 

[murkeywaters]

Ok rather than continue down this path - ask this question:

Why can't the freaking idiots that write the regs' do so in a manner where such things are no longer an issue? How hard can it be to write a non-ambiguous stament of what is and not allowed? Really HOW HARD CAN IT BE??

Why are they so hard to interpret at times? It's ridiculous! If they put proper definitions down - ie you can't use rubber lures with scent - then we'd know where we stand exactly!

Sorry but I could bring up so many more obvious flaws in the reg's it's not funny. IE I can fish a water (lake) that's only accessible via boat, that water is C&R - to access thar water I have to cross another water where I can keep fish - go enforce that when I'm coming home with 3 fish from the C&R but I get caught on the lake where retention is legal??????

I always try and adhere to the regs, but I think they are pathetic! And for the amount of enforcement it may as well be written on toilet roll - I'm talking enforcment in the Okanagan/Shuswap area for specifics.

You wanna fish that really unpopular spot - Adams mouth on the Shuswap lake with bait - no problem - sod the regs, despite the huge line up of anglers I've still not seen it enforced once -and I end up in arguments trying to do so - not my job but I try!!

yeah lets allow people to still take fish from the Kettle River - it's stocks are huge don't you know!! yeah and then go try and catch decent a fish in 90% of it - ;-)

Regs and enforcment are a JOKE - period!

cheers,

Paul.

 

[hotrod]

Delta Tackle has a great rubber egg with no scent that just rocks. I've caught many a fish on them this year. When using single egg presentations you don't need the scent.

Jensen eggs in oil is bait even though if you wipe them off and dry them out they still have a scent to them. Now if you are going to go to this extreme with them then why don't people just use the unscented Delta tackle eggs.


Hotrod

 

[Krypto-Limitkiller-Sanderson]

Why are they so hard to interpret at times? It's ridiculous! If they put proper definitions down - ie you can't use rubber lures with scent - then we'd know where we stand exactly!

That is in the regs. IF THERE IS SCENT ON THE LURE IT IS BAIT. A rubber egg w/scent IS BAIT BECAUSE SCENT IS BAIT. THAT IS ALREADY IN THE REGS. How hard is it to actually read the regs? That is not a hard interpretation. Its black and white.

Jensen eggs in oil is bait even though if you wipe them off and dry them out they still have a scent to them. Now if you are going to go to this extreme with them then why don't people just use the unscented Delta tackle eggs.

Thank you, the option really is that simple.