Wookie said:
those of us who don't know anyone else to explore uncharted territory with ..... should we just go march blindly to the Cap or Chehalis Canyons, for example? NOt trying to sound rude or anything, but info on access to these areas is limited by conventional means, so why couldn't one simply ask for info before attempting a potentially dangerous trip?]
I certainly don't think anyone will blindly go walking in anywhere without at least some info...and having said that, I think you should ask around, use google, read fishing magazines...etc, etc, etc...if you ask here I know that I usually will throw some info out there for ya, so will others here...so yeah, people should ask. BUT, they should also try and do some research on their own while they're waiting for the answer...
wookie said:
I have limited knowledge of most systems but am more than willing to share it should someone inquire. Granted, asking questions that can easily be answered by a little footwork is just plain lazy, but wouldn't pointing someone in the right direction perhaps smooth out a reciprocal flow of info?
This is precisely the way it works as far as I'm concerned, and from what I know of CK, he's a good guy who is willing to help when he can...as are most others here...but many of us are wary, like steelie trav said....not really willing to give up the money holes...you have to earn those.
BY the way, thanks to everyone who has provided me with tips/advice, and I'm not trying to sound ungrateful, but I think that letting people in on at least some info, could benefit all, as it could generate a stonger feeling of belonging to a fishing community, which would in turn create common ideals, which could of course lead to greater conservation awareness, cleanliness while fishing, etc, etc ... you guys see where I'm going with this...
I see where you are going with this, I think what everyone needs to understand is, on the web nobody knows who the people they're talking to really are , so they excercise some discretion...they build trust, and yes they share ideas...but we all have to realize how important it is to develop some trust, show some of the "common ideals", like conservation, respect for the rivers and the fish, etc....but that has to be shown first before people will start throwing out info on their local flows...
So....no you haven't offended anyone, not me anyways...I think the whole point though is to get to know people and let them get to know you also and in time you might find that information sharing begins to flow...keep in mind, I share a lot of stuff on here, but I don't try and get specific about a particular river or stream or creek, the reason is simple. The real benefit here is the knowledge and skills you will gather by reading and posting over the years...99% of the actual rivers, and streams, and creeks I know about I learned by taking a very , very tiny bit of shared information and then adding to it by research. Look at maps, google site names...read a book or two, and by all means, ask questions...
...just be ok with it if you don't necessarily get the answers as quick as you'd like or even at all....that's the nature of research it takes time to figure out the intricacies of a river and no matter who you know or get information from you are still going to have to learn the best parts about it by footwork, and footwork alone...that is trully the fun part!
I try to learn a new river once a year, at least in part, and over many, many years I acrue information about all of them, and then year to year I can go to any one of those flows and I will already have the info I need. Just remember, patience....it's still more footwork than anything else... :wink:
If want to know about those canyons you mentioned wookie I can start you out on the right track...just pm me.
hope that helps,
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