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I'd like to pass along an old family secret. My uncle Bob married his cousin (oops..wrong secret!) :naughty: Anyways, this is the legit secret.....

Many moons ago (maybe 40 years) my dad came up with an idea to slow down the revolutions of a spinner blade. Given a choice, all salmon species along with steelhead and trout prefer slower moving lures. Slower moving targets imitate injured baitfish. Very few predator fish can catch healthy baitfish and they depend on injured fish to feed on. Commercially made spinners (in my opinion) generally revolve too fast, regardless of your retrieval speed. I've often thought that most commercial lures are designed to catch more fishermen rather than fish, with their fancy packaging and all.

If you make your own spinners, what I am going to say is easy. If you don't, first of all you should try it..its easy and very satisfying when you catch a fish on your own creation (just Google 'lure making' and you should find some good info or ask me). Even if you don't make your own, you can modify commercial spinners.

In order to slow the revs of a spinner blade down, you need to make it heavier and to do that, the simplest way is to solder a second blade onto the first one.

Again, if you make your own, just solder a second blade on. If you buy spinners, go to a sporting goods store and buy some spinner blades the same size and shape as the spinners you have... then just solder a second one on.

As far as colours go, fish GENERALLY hit a lure from behind. So you want the dominant colour to be the back blade. It therefore doesn't matter if you have a silver spinner blade to which you solder a brass second blade behind it (if you want brass to be the dominant colour). Having said that, fish will sometimes quarter into a blade from the front and will see only the front blade but thats fishing and guessing what colour works on any given day. Its highly unlikely though they will hit a spinner head on. Why? Because throughout their life, they have survived on stealth and surprise to eat and most baitfish would easily escape the predator if they could see it coming.

Blade colour is a whole new topic so the main thing here is, if you want to slow down the revs of a spinner blade to make it more enticing, make it heavier. Weighing the body down makes the lure heavier but does nothing for blade revolutions.

When you are on the pick and letting the lure do its thing in the current (which I like), the difference between a single blade and a double one is almost comparable to a sport boat prop versus a big ship one. If you can't count the revs, you are fishing too fast. You want that blade to almost hang at the top of the rev before slooowly sliding down and almost groaning to make it back to the top of the arc. When you have the spinner doing that, cohoes, springs and chums will go out of their way to smack it. Its not unlike fishing a colorado under a float..same idea.

Its been real tough fishing cohoes these past couple of years and this year appears to be about the same. Hopefully, this idea will help harvest a few more. :thumbup:
 

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Rivahman for Prime Minister of Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I think the dominant colour should be on the concave side (inside of the blade) because most fish will probably hit the lure from some rearward angle. You'll get some hits I'm sure from the front too but predator fish are used to intercepting their prey from the blindside (the rear).

I'm really neutral on whether noisy spinners are good or bad. They might give an advantage in murky water but might also repel fish in low clear water. Since we don't know what kind of sound a lure emits underwater (that is attractive to fish), we can only accept the manufacturer's claims that it does (if it does).

I depend more on blade colour and a blade that revolves slowly and has good flash. A heavy blade not only revolves slowly but, if left in the current, will also revolve erratically. Its this erratic movement (speeding up and slowing down) that really gets a fish's attention. Its alot like fishing a colorado blade beneath a float. That blade is spinning, then slowing, speeding up again, slowing down, etc. Fish are natural born chasers and even if they are not in the mood to bite, seeing something moving slowly and then speeding up (as if to escape) causes blind instinct to take over and before you know it... fish on!
 

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just made a few up except for the one i added a small blade (copper) ontop of another med (brass) and it looks :thumbup: can't wait til the next outting to give them a try :cheers:


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It really depends on the water young gun. If you are fishing a very slow flow, then a single colorado blade will work just fine. With any blade design, once you add a second one to it, the action will slow. If the water flow is slow, a second blade might kill all the action and the spinner will not perform at all. I like colorados generally and have doubled up on the blade to good advantage. I have also used single colorados, but it all depends on the water conditions and how the spinner reacts to it.

As we all know, there is never a 'sure killer'. What works today, won't get a sniff tomorrow. The only advice I can give is, watch your lure in the water as you retrieve it or as it drifts in the current. If the action is methodical (i.e. spins at a constant rate), I would either consider changing it or modify the way you are fishing to alter the action of the lure. If any of you ever get the chance (if you haven't already), watch some of the Charlie White videos on catching fish. I wish I could remember the one in particular but it showed salmon following a spinner. They were totally mesmorized by it but wouldn't take it. Why? Because the action was constant and instinct never kicked in to catch it. I really think its the erratic movement of a properly fished spinner blade that not only attracts fish but virtually forces them to bite it out of blind instinct.

Scruffy..... that combo not only looks and sounds good but is bound to be a pretty nice coho killer. Different sized blades together are awesome. They have the advantage of offering 2 colours with less weight than 2 blades of the same size yet still offering the weight advantage over a single blade. Nice going. Copper is one of my favourite colours next to......
 

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You can certainly do that young gun. There are many ways to fish a spinner blade and as long as erratic movements are included, you will be rewarded. When I am trolling spinners for instance, every once in a while I will tweak the line with my fingers to speed the spinner up. On a number of occasions in the past, I was rewarded with a coho. In all liklihood, the fish was following the spinner but since it made no erratic movements, the fish was probably not inclined to bite it. But, as soon as I pulled on the line, the spinner started to 'escape' and the fish grabbed it out of pure instinct.
 

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Absolutely reelangler. There are many ways to vary retrieval speed and all should be tried, depending on what gear you are using. The concept is the same if you are spincasting, trolling or fly casting. As fish do get mesmorized by spinners (see Charlie White videos), the key to success is a varied retrieve. One of the ways is what you stated.

Spoons are very similar to spinners in the way they should be fished. A constantly wobbling or wiggling spoon might look good to us (reminds me of that belly dancer at dinner the other nite :thumbup:) but one that wobbles then flutters then wobbles again is even better.
 
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