What a joke. Went to go hit my backyard flow yesterday and counted more than 60 cars on the trailer park side. Didn't even bother going to the park side. I was pissed. And it is still early for the good push of fish to enter the system. I bet it is all because some guy posted on a forum about some coho he apparently caught. Time for people to quit posting about success and let people learn and find the fish the way I did and many others on these sites. By putting in the time.
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Well I spent two days on the stave this past weekend and had a great time. Not a whole lot of fish around....barely any actually being caught. Monday was quite the gong show, the road was lined with cars and each bar looked like we were on the Fraser during sockeye season!
Ya well I just miss the days when a guy could go to any of my local flows and fish in peace. Just like Norrish, I used to fish that creek and maybe run into a handful of locals. Now I call it Mini veddar. There is one thing about Norrish though it still holds a few secrets.
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Maybe his name is Dave?Rivahman said:
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There is one thing about Norrish though it still holds a few secrets.
AH huh, like what, which displaced bear repellant to use? Only timing is a secret on that ditch, I live 4 min. from there...
AH huh, like what, which displaced bear repellant to use? Only timing is a secret on that ditch, I live 4 min. from there...
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Good one Hotrod. I actually appreciate the fact that you are willing to share some of it with the rest of us. :thumbup: :thumbup:
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This site is called BC Fishing FORUMS so...fishin30 said:
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My little stream, the Stave, with all it's backwaters, birds, and habitat. Quiet, peaceful and soothing to those souls who spent their lives indoors at their computers.Once a year this little body of water (all 1 mile of it ) is decimated by fisherman who decend upon her shores, and relentlessly smash floats, lead weights and hardware onto the peaceful water with the hope of landing a pacific salmon. They leave mountains of garbage and fishing line along her banks. They fight over a few small spots that may or may not be "hot" They snag fish and take pictures and the spectacle lasts but a mere three weeks. Then, as fast as they appear, they are gone and the stench of rotting salmon fills the air and the craziness is over.....Eleven more months of peace awaits when I will persue rainbow, steelhead, cutthroat, spring salmon, and sturgeon with no one around but the birds, the quiet backwater and the marshlands..........I love the Stave...........Ortho 8)
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Got the hairs on the back of the neck standing up on that last sentence, Orthofishortho said:
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It is truly unfortunate that the drive to snag a few pounds of "free" meat drives the autumn anglers to plug the shores of any spot that will harbour salmon. I am at the point that it no longer matters to me if I touch a salmon. The Skagit is still open and there is not another soul on it these days, the mosquitoes have departed and the fish are actively stocking up calories for a long undisturbed winter. Go to your favorite meat hole and rage at the "morons" crowding either side of you, if that is your idea of a good time. At least try to play nice.
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the stave is only goin to get worse day after day , that was only the start of the gong show , i was out on monday , and saw many guys using the usual 12ft leader with 3 oz bouncing betty , snagging them all in the back or fin, dragging them in one by one , all nasty dogs - coloured up with huge teeth! , people dont understand this takes the sport out of fishing!
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Yeah - there was a guy beside me yesterday with a extremely long leader - I wondered what the heck the guy was doing - he seemed to have such difficulty casting - lol. He kept casting over my line too - Maybe he was just learning?? Whatever he was doing he looked ackward - lol. Then I looked and saw how far up his float was. He did catch one spring - or should I say snag. When he pulled it in to the beach I wanted to see his fish so I slowly started to walk over - as I was wondering if it was a coho - It was funny how he was in such shear panic to get the hook out before I got there - lol.bigmike2020 said:
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Well, it goes to say that even some people out there know they are doing something wrong or imporperly, however they don't seem to care unless someone is watching them. Why is it that they don't care how they are fishing until someone is looking? Probably because it is the only way they know how to catch said fish. They might have even tried ethical methods without any luck, then switched back to how they know how to catch a fish. This is where the sport angler steps in even though it really isn't easy for one to do so, especially when you can spend your whole day trying to teach "newbies" and not even get to wet your own line (or that is how it would be if we tried to eductae the entire river). So now we are left with a large number of people interested in fishing, some for meat others for pleasure. The problem is that most don't seem to know how to entice a fish to bite down on your lure or bait. They are doing what they do because it is the only way they know how. Now we are left with one question, how do we educate when the educated are the minority? It makes it very difficult, how many people are you willing to teach before you get fed up and just want to fish?
Sure we can try and instate tests in order to get your licenses, but how much money are we willing to spend on something that probably won't change anything. Just because someone is aware of what is right it doesn't mean that they are going to do it. A lot of what we see on our rivers is going to be something we are going to have to get somewhat used to. That is until the Government is able to set in place strict guidlines on legal angling practises. Another way would be to instate a large number of catch and release fisheries, which I believe there should be more of.
The population of our beautiful province is growing....rapidly, it is something we are all going to have to get used to. With it is a larger number of people interested in angling for thier own reasons. As more people start to see these unethical methods of catching fish they too will start to angle unethically, and so on.....
What we can do is make sure that poachers are reported when possible and also to try and lend a helping hand with the "newbies". If we all do that then we can possibly see less of the crap most of us have come to witness. But when it comes down to the number of people on the flows, that is something we are all going to have to get used to, there is no way around it.
To quote a great movie, "And that is all I have to say about that!" ~Forrest Gump
Sure we can try and instate tests in order to get your licenses, but how much money are we willing to spend on something that probably won't change anything. Just because someone is aware of what is right it doesn't mean that they are going to do it. A lot of what we see on our rivers is going to be something we are going to have to get somewhat used to. That is until the Government is able to set in place strict guidlines on legal angling practises. Another way would be to instate a large number of catch and release fisheries, which I believe there should be more of.
The population of our beautiful province is growing....rapidly, it is something we are all going to have to get used to. With it is a larger number of people interested in angling for thier own reasons. As more people start to see these unethical methods of catching fish they too will start to angle unethically, and so on.....
What we can do is make sure that poachers are reported when possible and also to try and lend a helping hand with the "newbies". If we all do that then we can possibly see less of the crap most of us have come to witness. But when it comes down to the number of people on the flows, that is something we are all going to have to get used to, there is no way around it.
To quote a great movie, "And that is all I have to say about that!" ~Forrest Gump
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Can't agree more ortho I grew up along that river and it still is one of my fav's, and there are still many spots that are great coho locals that are rarely visited.
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