i was there last week & the guy that works at the hatch said not to even bother right now , said norm like over 1000 comming up right now but because of the damage there may be 50 if yer lucky... it sucks i know i now have nowhere to fish here on the N shore.. anyone heard anything on the seymore.
My buddy saw some huge ones sitting in Lynn creek can you even fish there??????
check this out
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The following article appeared in the October 3, 2003 issue of the North Shore Times
SALMON STOCKS IN THE PINK
by Terry Glavin
There was something eerie about living in British Columbia this summer. Fires raged through thousands of hectares of forests. Droughts parched much of B.C.'s notoriously wet coastal regions. Lower Mainland residents worried about the North Shore's historically bountiful water reservoirs, which supply much of Greater Vancouver. For a few days in August, all that was left was a month's supply of water.
It was all a bit unnerving, but another major ecological event was unfolding all summer that attracted a lot less attention. It involves salmon, and it isn't a tragic story at all.
It isn't as peculiar as the story of the salmon that fell from the sky and landed on the roof of Gertie Clark's house in the village of Ballina on Ireland's Mayo coast September 3 (everybody agrees it was dropped from the talons of an osprey that picked the fish out of the nearby River Moy). And it's perhaps not as incredible as the story of the Pacific pink salmon that found its way to Scotland in August, only to be caught in the River Leven by Dunbartonshire angler William Millar, on a hook baited with a common garden worm (the fish was almost certainly a stray from a population of pink salmon the Russians transplanted to a river on the Atlantic side of the Arctic a few years ago).
But it's perhaps every bit as unexpected.
All summer, salmon have been swarming coastal rivers from Alaska to Oregon. Up and down the British Columbia coast, commercial fishermen caught so many pink salmon the processers couldn't handle them all, so they stopped buying the fish, half way through the season. Returns have been spectacular as far south as the dam-ravaged Columbia River, where a 15-fold increase over last year's chinook salmon returns pushed the Columbia's Chinook runs to a 40-year high.
Scores of small British Columbia runs still teeter at extinction's cliff edge, and many larger runs are in terrible shape. Strait of Georgia steelhead salmon runs have fallen to perilous lows in recent years.
Last year, two B.C. sockeye runs became the first fish stocks ever granted an "emergency" endangered listing. But as August turned to September, dozens of B.C. rivers were teeming with salmon.
Some B.C. salmon runs have returned in numbers higher than they've been in decades. Coho salmon - still recovering from years of overfishing - are being reported in small streams throughout Howe Sound and Burrard Inlet, sometimes in creeks where they haven't been seen in a generation.
One of the happiest success stories on the B.C. coast is North Vancouver's Seymour River.
Early in the 20th Century, the Seymour was dammed, 20 kilometers from its mouth. Logging and urban development ruined much of the lower river, and for decades, only a handful of chinook returned every year. By the late 1990s, coho returns had fallen to about 1,500, mainly because of poor ocean survival rates and overfishing. But about three years ago, the river's fortunes started to turn around.
coho. This year, we expect to match that, or even better it," says Seymour Fish Hatchery manager Brian Smith. "And we're seeing more chinook in the river this year than we've seen in years. It's really encouraging"
Chum salmon returns to the Seymour have been on the rise in recent years, but it's too early to say what this year's returns will be. Pink salmon, however, were showing up in high numbers in early September. For perhaps the first time ever, pink salmon were observed above the Seymour canyon this year, almost certainly because federal fisheries officials were persuaded to blow up a rock obstruction in the river two years ago.
The Capilano River isn't showing quite the same strength as the Seymour.
Water-supply authorities held back unusually high volumes of precious water in their efforts to maintain the levels of the reservoir behind the river's 49-year-old dam, but coho returns numbered about 6,000 spawners in the Capilano by
Lynn Creek is showing healthy coho returns (a family of otters has established itself in a pool near the "Dog Walk" at the creek's lower end) and there's an encouraging sign of pink salmon in Lynn Creek and its tributaries, says Zo Ann Morten of the Pacific Streamkeepers Federation.
The Squamish River, meanwhile, is seething with salmon. Projections for pink salmon spawners, based on observed returns to September 17, called for a total run to the Squamish and its tributaries of at least 40,000 pinks, and perhaps as many as 60,000. While still a shadow of its former abundance, this year's pink run on the Squamish is showing fully twice the strength of its parent generation, Fisheries and Oceans officials say.
Of all the salmon species that return to the B.C. coast every year, pink salmon are showing the strongest recoveries. But it's a happy event for all salmon species, because the diffusion of salmon carcasses in stream systems tends to maintain the nutrient-rich environment necessary for all juvenile salmon.
This year's pink salmon bounty is the result of several factors.
The main reason is improved ocean survival - a purely "natural" event. Also, the drastic fishing restraints of recent years, aimed mainly at opening a corridor through the fishery gauntlet to benefit endangered coho and steelhead runs, also cleared a path for homeward-migrating pink salmon.
Another reason is that pinks are a relatively low-value fish that don't attract great fishing-industry interest.
But Rob Bell-Irving, federal Fisheries and Oceans community adviser for West Vancouver and Howe Sound, said this year's success stories on the North Shore can also be attributed to the work of hundreds of local streamkeepers and volunteers who spend so much effort protecting local creeks.
Bell-Irving warns, however, that this year's long dry spell may well prove a harbinger of things to come. Global warming appears to be well and truly upon us, and too many North Shore residents are unaware of the seriousness of the water-shortage problems we're already facing.
In West Vancouver, far too many people were using water unnecessarily through the summer - washing cars, watering lawns, and so on - and the consequence was that Nelson Creek, a salmon-bearing stream, ran dry.
In the 1930s, Dick Creek, a Nelson Creek tributary, was dammed, and a major wetland was destroyed to create a reservoir for local drinking water. Heavy use of that reservoir this past summer forced Nelson Creek's volunteer hatchery to release its salmon fry far too early - for the second year in a row.
"There's a real reluctance to tackling the problem," Bell-Irving said.
Bell-Irving congratulated West Vancouver district officials for beginning work on sustainable watershed planning, but the process is off to a rocky start.
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