Fill it out brothers and sisters :beerchug:
This statement could spawn off MANY other threads....Every Day said:I don't think either of them are weaker than the other.
are you kidding me?flyguy said:Hatchery vs wild, wild vs hatchery? What is truly wild? Very few runs that are left are truly wild and the hatcheries have put marked fish( clipped) in the system for the anglers to retain. So yes it would be considered "put and take" and it is simply upto you to decide if you are going to bonk that fish.
When you see that wild and hatchery paired up it is most likely to fish that have come from a hatchery as they do not clip every fish that they release.
As far as thrashers comment on the kids. The one with the interaction grows up to be a productive citizen to society and the other joins a gang and shots up the city.
flyguy said:When you see that wild and hatchery paired up it is most likely to fish that have come from a hatchery as they do not clip every fish that they release.
Hey dennis, ya I didn't mean to sound so pissed. I just really hate that ("hatchery are put there to kill") phrase! It strikes a "wasteful"chord with me. It also has the essence of carelessness.Dennis.t said:Good point RNL ,I know it failed on the Englishmen as i fished that flow when they were trying to augment the run with a broodstook program,it got to the point where there was so few returning they had to give up catching broodstock becuase they could not even take one fish from the river.Heart breaking
it's been catch and release on Van Isle for wild steelhead since 1978, what's really changed?bronjuan said:By no means am I placing full blame on sport fisherman for the declining stocks. There are greater factors to address. I wouldn't be surprised that what's going on out at sea is the primary problem. It's just that if we bonked less fish on our rivers, perhaps we'd be giving the species a helping hand while still enjoying the sport that we love.
the reason why this may not be a good thing is the "fitness" level of hatchery steelhead is not up to that of wild steelhead and you will actually have a shrinking run size if hatchery fish spawn with wild fish according to studies that have been done. This was one of the big issues when deciding wether or not to try hacthery work on the Cheakamus after the CN derailment. Wish it was just as simple as plant a bunch of smolts and lots will come back, but with steelhead it just does not work that way at times.bronjuan said:People need to realise that these hatchery fish aren't 3n. They can and will produce offspring. If you let them live, you put less strain on hatchery programs, thus, the money can be spent else where ie habitat restoration.
You may not like the phrase, but the reality is that the hatchery program is in place for one of 2 purposes:bronjuan said:Firstly,
When I read phrases like "they are there to be killed" I don't know what to think. I ask myself, "Did I miss this paragraph in the regs?"