- With Sockeye returns incredibly low there has been a debate you may have read about in a few news papers. - Is it because of climate change, poor management, over fishing? What do you think is the cause of the low returns . . ? Do you think it will happen with other runs - Coho, Chinook???
Your Opinion - Sockeye
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I can summarize my opinion in one four letter word........ NETS
Ok, maybe I shouldn't blame declining fish stocks on just netting. Poor management and overall "lack of sack" to deal with the FN & Commies.
Do away with a small select group of commies, let the FN fish for cerimonial and subsistance (NOT FOR PROFIT) and control the sport catch with regulated seasons, bag limits, etc... and watch the numbers increase rapidly.
The overall economic impact would be huge. Guide services would be able to get decent numbers of fish, hotels & Restaurants would be busy.
See, pretty simple, maybe too simple. :wallbash:
Why is it that a small select group is allowed monitary gain from a natural resource ??? Do not the rights of the many outweigh the rights of the few? It all boils down to the almighty dollar.
eace:
Ok, maybe I shouldn't blame declining fish stocks on just netting. Poor management and overall "lack of sack" to deal with the FN & Commies.
Do away with a small select group of commies, let the FN fish for cerimonial and subsistance (NOT FOR PROFIT) and control the sport catch with regulated seasons, bag limits, etc... and watch the numbers increase rapidly.
The overall economic impact would be huge. Guide services would be able to get decent numbers of fish, hotels & Restaurants would be busy.
See, pretty simple, maybe too simple. :wallbash:
Why is it that a small select group is allowed monitary gain from a natural resource ??? Do not the rights of the many outweigh the rights of the few? It all boils down to the almighty dollar.
eace:
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Yes, all of the above, but this year they are blaming ocean survival for the poor sockeye returns and that can be a number of things. My unscientific, unresearched hunch wants to say climate change will have, if it has not arleady had, the biggest detrimental impact on all species of fish.
I am also concerned about climate change, or to be more specific, water temperature change of interior lakes that lie next to pine beetle infested forests. They will definitely get warmer as they clear timber. That can't be good for spawning streams or the lakes.
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STUPID FU***NG NETS GRRRRR Ban All nets accept for cfishing , even then reduced to days or weeks Sorry natives catch em like us with a hook and a line...This is my country too you know i was born here you know. lol
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Poor ocean survival does't seem to be affecting the chum and pink population.
Maybe climate change and poor ocean survival only afflicts the commercially viable species.
Maybe climate change and poor ocean survival only afflicts the commercially viable species.
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you know waht i say everyone on this board drops it , no more sockeye talk flossing is flossing ppl wana do it go for it its what ever makes them happy you wana do it your way go do it your way. Woo one year no sockeye what ever are we going to do.... Move on allready jeez this is gettin a bit retarded. Pages upon pages of the same bs talk its done ok alls we need is updates thats it no more STUPID SOCKEYE TALK. Pinks will be here soon in swarms so go have fun!! And drop all this.
Not tryin to be a ass but comon its whats done is done and we can only hope for a late opening or even a strong run next year or someting.
DONE and said !!
Not tryin to be a ass but comon its whats done is done and we can only hope for a late opening or even a strong run next year or someting.
DONE and said !!
They might still be coming! with warmer ocean temperatures, maybe they decided to go further up north where the water is colder, and therefore takes longer to get back. Remember a few years back when the sockeye were coming through thick in september, well maybe we are about to see this happen again. Come on please let this be the case!
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I think it is to early to tell why the numbers arent here that usually are. Even though I am new to BC, I have fished the Great Lakes for almost two decades. The principles of why things happen are the same. I know back home fish runs would be late sometimes by a month. Since the ocean is a much bigger water system I would have to think this time frame could/would be inflated quite a bit. I believe fish run late/early do to the weather cycles. Some years temperatures are warmer/colder then others this causing the seasons to last longer/shorter then others. Inturn, water temperatures reflect these seasonal changes. Thermoclines can change a great deal season to season. To keep what could be a long post short. I believe fish forage on whatever is plentiful in that given year, and what takes the least effort to catch. From smelt to squid or whatever. Fish have to travel longer some years to find sufficient food and adequate water temps.
From what I have been reading runs of fish have been late and early for as far back as record keeping has ever been kept. I think things are still too early to get all crazy about no fish showing up. As long as the DFO put measures in place incase there really isnt a strong run this year after all, things should work out (as long as EVERYONE complies). JMO
BTW, i have some native friends that have been seeing good numbers of fish showing up the past week.
From what I have been reading runs of fish have been late and early for as far back as record keeping has ever been kept. I think things are still too early to get all crazy about no fish showing up. As long as the DFO put measures in place incase there really isnt a strong run this year after all, things should work out (as long as EVERYONE complies). JMO
BTW, i have some native friends that have been seeing good numbers of fish showing up the past week.
Large numbers of sox were sighted under lions gate bridge on tuesday. I think they are still coming. You know it was this scenario on the last pink run."Where are all the fish" everyone said and the fish were all out on the west coast of QCI by the millions. Guys were getting them like crazy out there.
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I don't buy the climate change as the main culprit... .. just because in our recent history it has gone up 1/2 a degreeBig Green Machine said:
we seem to blame everything on climate change.. Earth's climate has been heating and cooling for thousands of years.. so what makes it so special this time around.
I personally think it's alot more simple... overfishing and habitat loss... see how the runs are if we left them alone for a couple spawning cycles.
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